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:::Moreover, many of those workers from India, China, Africa, Indonesia, and Latin America, who learned the job skills by [[mimesis]], will not have to convert their paychecks into dollars to buy the consumer manufactured goods and necessities of life from China or food from Russia, but instead can pay directly in yuan or rubles. That will be to your detriment due to the falling demand and value of the dollar. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 20:09, February 26, 2024 (EST) | :::Moreover, many of those workers from India, China, Africa, Indonesia, and Latin America, who learned the job skills by [[mimesis]], will not have to convert their paychecks into dollars to buy the consumer manufactured goods and necessities of life from China or food from Russia, but instead can pay directly in yuan or rubles. That will be to your detriment due to the falling demand and value of the dollar. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 20:09, February 26, 2024 (EST) | ||
| − | == | + | I have shared this essay with various Conservapedians via email and so far the feedback has been positive. Your attempts at rebuttals have not been compelling. I know it, you know it {{Personal remark removed}}. |
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| + | But feel free to create a counter essay at: [[Essay: Russian oil: Will NOT have lower future production/profits due to future higher extraction costs and other inefficiencies]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:19, February 27, 2024 (EST) | ||
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| + | :Sorry, we're not all [[narcissist]]s interested in spewing our opinions in Essay space, nor obsessed with [[sorcery]], [[fortunetelling]], [[forecasting]], and making predictions. ''Sufficient is the day the evil thereof''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 00:41, February 27, 2024 (EST) | ||
| + | ::I don't obsessively delink wiki essays on talk pages containing facts. You should examine why you are so allergic to facts and why you are so envious of others getting limelight. | ||
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| + | ::There certainly are people who are narcissists. They have: an intense need for admiration and being the center of attention; demand that their mere opinions be treated as facts; are very insecure people who get angry when they are told they are wrong; have poor emotional control and are quick to get angry and yell; are very closeminded; who hate authority and are rebels without a cause (Know anyone who is known for rebelling against Andy's authority); who have difficulty dealing with others in their personal and other relationships; often have a desire to denigrate others in the mistaken belief that it lifts themselves up and who often gossip about others. | ||
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| + | ::I do find your behavior rather sad and comical. | ||
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| + | ::Also, there is nothing wrong with people who take an interest in forecasting due to practical concerns such as investing and other practical reasons such as business forecasting. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 01:24, February 27, 2024 (EST) | ||
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| + | RobSmith, you wrote about oil/gas industry skills and Russia currnetly being short 25,000 people: "Between now and 2035, there is 88% of the population of planet Earth who can step up, learn the job skills, and occupy those positions." | ||
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| + | A lot of the remaining Russian oil/gas expertise in Russia is old and about to retire and young Russians are not stepping up to replace those people enough as Oreana News and others have stated. Also, a lot of the expertise that Russia used to deal with was from the Western oil companies and now Russia has bad relations with the West. Furthermore, in terms of legal immigration, people are not flocking to Russia. In fact, Russia has a brain drain now. | ||
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| + | So people who are knowledgeable about future Russian oil/gas production, such as the people at OilPrice.com, are not optimistic. | ||
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| + | Your denialism as exhibited by your magic wand waving on the likelihood that Russia will solve this problem is unrealistic and fantasy. You are wishcasting to the nth degree. If the problem was so easy for Russia to fix, Russia would have solved it by now and not be short of 25,000 oil/gas workers. But the problem is getting worse and not better. | ||
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| + | So down the pike, like in about 10 years or so (or sooner), it looks like you are going to have to replace Russians/Putin with some other person/group as far as your grossly idealized/unrealistic portrayal of them. Because it looks like Russia is going to be in bad shape in about 10 years or so. But I would suggest worshipping God instead of mere men. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:28, February 27, 2024 (EST) | ||
| + | :RobSmith, I am giving you a challenge: Give me one credible source that says that Russia is likely going to help solve its expected significantly lower future oil production by 2035 by finding sufficient labor to solve this issue. Just one credible source. I don't expect you being able to do this because I don't expect many people sharing your fantasy. But even if Russia did not manage to achieve this feat, Russian oil is still going to be significantly harder to extract and less profitable to extract. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:13, February 27, 2024 (EST) | ||
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| + | == Deletion of lost debate unacceptable. This is denialism. == | ||
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| + | RobSmith, the deletion of the lost debate is unacceptable. This is denialism. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:26, February 27, 2024 (EST) | ||
Revision as of 20:52, February 27, 2024
Stratfor, hmmm? You need to see this: Resisting the globalist conditioning of America and get off your Neocon/LGBT donkey. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 22:44, February 25, 2024 (EST)
- Regarding you ignoring my OilPrice.com info: The Fallacy of exclusion is a logical fallacy where "Important evidence which would undermine an inductive argument is excluded from consideration. The requirement that all relevant information be included is called the 'principle of total evidence."[1]
- Regarding your Statfor comment. See: Genetic fallacy
- I trust this clarifies matters. Feel free to engage in last wordism. Conservative (talk) 22:50, February 25, 2024 (EST)
- The same factors will affect the American oil industry.
- oilprice.com is a trade publication for distributors and investors; it's not bigotted propaganda as you use it. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 22:53, February 25, 2024 (EST)
Will the same factors affect the American oil industry?
- US oil production will remain at 'historically high volumes’ through 2050: New government report, Yahoo Finance, March 2023
- Projected energy production from crude oil and light condensate in the United States from 2022 to 2050, Statista
- "Strong continuing international demand for petroleum and other liquids will sustain U.S. production above 2022 levels through 2050, according to most of the cases we examined in our Annual Energy Outlook 2023 (AEO2023). We project that the United States will continue to be an integral part of global oil markets and a significant source of supply in these cases, as increased exports of finished products support U.S. production." - US Energy Information Administration[2]
In addition, I cite: In Russia, the shortage of personnel in the oil and gas industry was assessed, Oreana News, 2023 (Based in St. Peterburg, Russia)
For more information, please see: [[Essay: The USA is outproducing Russia and Saudi Arabia in oil production. The best is yet to come]]
Also, the USA is far more diversified in its economy than Russia.
I trust this clarifies matters. Conservative (talk) 08:18, February 26, 2024 (EST)
- We've been over this. Russia and Saudi Arabia are oil producing countries; the USA is an oil consuming country. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 12:33, February 26, 2024 (EST)
- The weakness in many of your screeds is your over reliance on investment advisors, which are basically sales pitches. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 17:00, February 26, 2024 (EST)
- "OilPrice.com reported in an article entitled Analysts Predict 42% Decline In Russian Oil Production By 2035".[3]
- "Currently, the Russian oil and gas industry lacks 25 thousand employees. Elena Kuznetsova, partner of Yakov and Partners, told RIA Novosti about the shortage of staff... Kuznetsova emphasizes that it is most difficult for employers to find medium- and highly qualified personnel, since they cannot be replaced quickly. Experts attribute the shortage of labor to the relocation of specialists, the low attractiveness of work in remote regions, as well as the aging of existing personnel and low motivation of young people. Earlier, the head of the Central Bank, Elvira Nabiullina, said that the shortage of personnel is the main problem of the Russian economy. According to the representative of the Bank of Russia, for further economic growth, it is necessary to ensure not the availability of money and loans, but to increase labor productivity". - Oreana News, 2023 (St. Peterburg, Russia).[4]
- And this is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of what I cover in the article via articles/video.
- Bottom line: Russia is very likely headed for a world of hurt. And no denialism and hand waving from a hyper Russophile is going to change this matter. Game over. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.00. Conservative (talk) 19:27, February 26, 2024 (EST)
- It's still meaningless. All it is a trade publication and speculation.
- Basically, what it is is, whining by Western oil producers cut off from high paying jobs due to their government 's suicidal Russia sanctions. That's all. Google "Arnold J. Toynbee, The Faculty of Mimesis". Between now and 2035, there is 88% of the population of planet Earth who can step up, learn the job skills, and occupy those positions. Granted, the suicide of the West due to the Green economy (which you advocate) will lead to a modest reduction in demand and prices, offset by growing demand among the remaining 88% of the planet. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 19:30, February 26, 2024 (EST)
- Moreover, many of those workers from India, China, Africa, Indonesia, and Latin America, who learned the job skills by mimesis, will not have to convert their paychecks into dollars to buy the consumer manufactured goods and necessities of life from China or food from Russia, but instead can pay directly in yuan or rubles. That will be to your detriment due to the falling demand and value of the dollar. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 20:09, February 26, 2024 (EST)
I have shared this essay with various Conservapedians via email and so far the feedback has been positive. Your attempts at rebuttals have not been compelling. I know it, you know it Personal remark removed.
But feel free to create a counter essay at: Essay: Russian oil: Will NOT have lower future production/profits due to future higher extraction costs and other inefficiencies. Conservative (talk) 00:19, February 27, 2024 (EST)
- Sorry, we're not all narcissists interested in spewing our opinions in Essay space, nor obsessed with sorcery, fortunetelling, forecasting, and making predictions. Sufficient is the day the evil thereof. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 00:41, February 27, 2024 (EST)
- I don't obsessively delink wiki essays on talk pages containing facts. You should examine why you are so allergic to facts and why you are so envious of others getting limelight.
- There certainly are people who are narcissists. They have: an intense need for admiration and being the center of attention; demand that their mere opinions be treated as facts; are very insecure people who get angry when they are told they are wrong; have poor emotional control and are quick to get angry and yell; are very closeminded; who hate authority and are rebels without a cause (Know anyone who is known for rebelling against Andy's authority); who have difficulty dealing with others in their personal and other relationships; often have a desire to denigrate others in the mistaken belief that it lifts themselves up and who often gossip about others.
- I do find your behavior rather sad and comical.
- Also, there is nothing wrong with people who take an interest in forecasting due to practical concerns such as investing and other practical reasons such as business forecasting. Conservative (talk) 01:24, February 27, 2024 (EST)
RobSmith, you wrote about oil/gas industry skills and Russia currnetly being short 25,000 people: "Between now and 2035, there is 88% of the population of planet Earth who can step up, learn the job skills, and occupy those positions."
A lot of the remaining Russian oil/gas expertise in Russia is old and about to retire and young Russians are not stepping up to replace those people enough as Oreana News and others have stated. Also, a lot of the expertise that Russia used to deal with was from the Western oil companies and now Russia has bad relations with the West. Furthermore, in terms of legal immigration, people are not flocking to Russia. In fact, Russia has a brain drain now.
So people who are knowledgeable about future Russian oil/gas production, such as the people at OilPrice.com, are not optimistic.
Your denialism as exhibited by your magic wand waving on the likelihood that Russia will solve this problem is unrealistic and fantasy. You are wishcasting to the nth degree. If the problem was so easy for Russia to fix, Russia would have solved it by now and not be short of 25,000 oil/gas workers. But the problem is getting worse and not better.
So down the pike, like in about 10 years or so (or sooner), it looks like you are going to have to replace Russians/Putin with some other person/group as far as your grossly idealized/unrealistic portrayal of them. Because it looks like Russia is going to be in bad shape in about 10 years or so. But I would suggest worshipping God instead of mere men. Conservative (talk) 11:28, February 27, 2024 (EST)
- RobSmith, I am giving you a challenge: Give me one credible source that says that Russia is likely going to help solve its expected significantly lower future oil production by 2035 by finding sufficient labor to solve this issue. Just one credible source. I don't expect you being able to do this because I don't expect many people sharing your fantasy. But even if Russia did not manage to achieve this feat, Russian oil is still going to be significantly harder to extract and less profitable to extract. Conservative (talk) 12:13, February 27, 2024 (EST)
Deletion of lost debate unacceptable. This is denialism.
RobSmith, the deletion of the lost debate is unacceptable. This is denialism. Conservative (talk) 15:26, February 27, 2024 (EST)