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== Throwing down the guantlet: A challenge to the man who denies that Russia will have a very hard time staffing its oil and gas fields in coming years ==
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RobSmith, you wrote about oil/gas industry skills and Russia currently being short 25,000 people: "Between now and 2035, there is 88% of the population of planet Earth who can step up, learn the job skills, and occupy those positions."
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A lot of the remaining Russian oil/gas expertise in Russia is old and about to retire and young Russians are not stepping up to replace those people enough as Oreana News and others have stated. Also, a lot of the expertise that Russia used to deal with was from the Western oil companies and now Russia has bad relations with the West. Furthermore, in terms of legal immigration, people are not flocking to Russia. In fact, Russia has a brain drain now.
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So people who are knowledgeable about future Russian oil/gas production, such as the people at OilPrice.com, are not optimistic.
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Your denialism as exhibited by your magic wand waving on the likelihood that Russia will solve this problem is unrealistic and fantasy. You are wishcasting to the nth degree. If the problem was so easy for Russia to fix, Russia would have solved it by now and not be short of 25,000 oil/gas workers.  But the problem is getting worse and not better.
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So down the pike, like in about 10 years or so (or sooner), it looks like you are going to have to replace Russians/Putin with some other person/group as far as your grossly idealized/unrealistic portrayal of them. Because it looks like Russia is going to be in bad shape in about 10 years or so. But I would suggest worshipping God instead of mere men. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:28, February 27, 2024 (EST)
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:RobSmith, I am giving you a challenge: Give me one credible source that says that Russia is likely going to help solve its expected significantly lower future oil production by 2035 by finding sufficient labor to solve this issue. Just one credible source. I don't expect you being able to do this because I don't expect many people sharing your fantasy. But even if Russia did not manage to achieve this feat, Russian oil is still going to be significantly harder to extract and less profitable to extract. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 02:47, February 28, 2024 (EST)

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Stratfor, hmmm? You need to see this: Resisting the globalist conditioning of America and get off your Neocon/LGBT donkey. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 22:44, February 25, 2024 (EST)

Regarding you ignoring my OilPrice.com info: The Fallacy of exclusion is a logical fallacy where "Important evidence which would undermine an inductive argument is excluded from consideration. The requirement that all relevant information be included is called the 'principle of total evidence."[1]
Regarding your Statfor comment. See: Genetic fallacy
I trust this clarifies matters. Feel free to engage in last wordism. Conservative (talk) 22:50, February 25, 2024 (EST)
The same factors will affect the American oil industry.
oilprice.com is a trade publication for distributors and investors; it's not bigotted propaganda as you use it. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 22:53, February 25, 2024 (EST)

Will the same factors affect the American oil industry?

In addition, I cite: In Russia, the shortage of personnel in the oil and gas industry was assessed, Oreana News, 2023 (Based in St. Peterburg, Russia)

For more information, please see: [[Essay: The USA is outproducing Russia and Saudi Arabia in oil production. The best is yet to come]]

Also, the USA is far more diversified in its economy than Russia.

I trust this clarifies matters. Conservative (talk) 08:18, February 26, 2024 (EST)

We've been over this. Russia and Saudi Arabia are oil producing countries; the USA is an oil consuming country. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 12:33, February 26, 2024 (EST)
The weakness in many of your screeds is your over reliance on investment advisors, which are basically sales pitches. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 17:00, February 26, 2024 (EST)
"OilPrice.com reported in an article entitled Analysts Predict 42% Decline In Russian Oil Production By 2035".[3]
"Currently, the Russian oil and gas industry lacks 25 thousand employees. Elena Kuznetsova, partner of Yakov and Partners, told RIA Novosti about the shortage of staff... Kuznetsova emphasizes that it is most difficult for employers to find medium- and highly qualified personnel, since they cannot be replaced quickly. Experts attribute the shortage of labor to the relocation of specialists, the low attractiveness of work in remote regions, as well as the aging of existing personnel and low motivation of young people. Earlier, the head of the Central Bank, Elvira Nabiullina, said that the shortage of personnel is the main problem of the Russian economy. According to the representative of the Bank of Russia, for further economic growth, it is necessary to ensure not the availability of money and loans, but to increase labor productivity". - Oreana News, 2023 (St. Peterburg, Russia).[4]
And this is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of what I cover in the article via articles/video.
Bottom line: Russia is very likely headed for a world of hurt. And no denialism and hand waving from a hyper Russophile is going to change this matter. Game over. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.00. Conservative (talk) 19:27, February 26, 2024 (EST)
It's still meaningless. All it is a trade publication and speculation.
Basically, what it is is, whining by Western oil producers cut off from high paying jobs due to their government 's suicidal Russia sanctions. That's all. Google "Arnold J. Toynbee, The Faculty of Mimesis". Between now and 2035, there is 88% of the population of planet Earth who can step up, learn the job skills, and occupy those positions. Granted, the suicide of the West due to the Green economy (which you advocate) will lead to a modest reduction in demand and prices, offset by growing demand among the remaining 88% of the planet. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 19:30, February 26, 2024 (EST)
Moreover, many of those workers from India, China, Africa, Indonesia, and Latin America, who learned the job skills by mimesis, will not have to convert their paychecks into dollars to buy the consumer manufactured goods and necessities of life from China or food from Russia, but instead can pay directly in yuan or rubles. That will be to your detriment due to the falling demand and value of the dollar. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 20:09, February 26, 2024 (EST)

Off topic personal conversation

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Russia crude oil extraction cost March 2005 to December 2018

For more information, please read: The Golden Age of Russian Oil Nears an End, Stratfor, 2023

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Russia crude oil extraction cost March 2005 to December 2018[1]

Russia's crude oil extraction cost affects how much profit Russia can earn from Russian oil sales. In addition, it can affect the potential amount of Russian oil drilling because if oil is too costly to extract in a given area, the drilling will not occur.

Russia's oil extraction cost are expected to rise in the future. See: The Golden Age of Russian Oil Nears an End, Stratfor, 2023

I trust this further clarifies matters. Conservative (talk) 01:02, February 28, 2024 (EST)

Stratfor, again. Why do you troll us and spam us without ever addressing the question of who Stratfor is? RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 01:07, February 28, 2024 (EST)
Trolling and spam is not a "debate", as you call it. Neither are they a discussion, which is what talk pages properly are for.
Anyone, any idiot, can download pics from a CIA front, spam it on discussion pages and crow Ole Ole Ole! I won! Grow up. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 01:09, February 28, 2024 (EST)

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Throwing down the guantlet: A challenge to the man who denies that Russia will have a very hard time staffing its oil and gas fields in coming years

RobSmith, you wrote about oil/gas industry skills and Russia currently being short 25,000 people: "Between now and 2035, there is 88% of the population of planet Earth who can step up, learn the job skills, and occupy those positions."

A lot of the remaining Russian oil/gas expertise in Russia is old and about to retire and young Russians are not stepping up to replace those people enough as Oreana News and others have stated. Also, a lot of the expertise that Russia used to deal with was from the Western oil companies and now Russia has bad relations with the West. Furthermore, in terms of legal immigration, people are not flocking to Russia. In fact, Russia has a brain drain now.

So people who are knowledgeable about future Russian oil/gas production, such as the people at OilPrice.com, are not optimistic.

Your denialism as exhibited by your magic wand waving on the likelihood that Russia will solve this problem is unrealistic and fantasy. You are wishcasting to the nth degree. If the problem was so easy for Russia to fix, Russia would have solved it by now and not be short of 25,000 oil/gas workers. But the problem is getting worse and not better.

So down the pike, like in about 10 years or so (or sooner), it looks like you are going to have to replace Russians/Putin with some other person/group as far as your grossly idealized/unrealistic portrayal of them. Because it looks like Russia is going to be in bad shape in about 10 years or so. But I would suggest worshipping God instead of mere men. Conservative (talk) 11:28, February 27, 2024 (EST)

RobSmith, I am giving you a challenge: Give me one credible source that says that Russia is likely going to help solve its expected significantly lower future oil production by 2035 by finding sufficient labor to solve this issue. Just one credible source. I don't expect you being able to do this because I don't expect many people sharing your fantasy. But even if Russia did not manage to achieve this feat, Russian oil is still going to be significantly harder to extract and less profitable to extract. Conservative (talk) 02:47, February 28, 2024 (EST)