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This article is very long, making it inconvenient to read.  Most of the sections here seem to have their own pages.  Editing is locked for regular users, so I can't do it, but has there been any discussion condensing the article to make it more reader-friendly? --[[User:JHunter|JHunter]] 16:25, 26 January 2012 (EST)

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Answering a question - sort of

August, by the way, what do you think of Conservapedia homosexuality article in terms of the factual evidence it presents?

It may present factual evidence. But it is practically unreadable: One can only hope that Aschlafly will take this as an example for his upcoming course in Persuasive Writing and helps to improve it. Every time I try to read it, I stumble upon so many atrocities that I have to stop. But it has its magic - for me as a foreigner it highlights the many traps in which I often find myself caught!

Homosexuality is the condition of "sexual desire or behavior directed toward a person or persons of one's own sex." no problem with this sentence

Theories on how people become homosexual
Homosexuality has a number of causal factors that influence its ultimate origination in individuals; these factors will be addressed shortly. In addition, homosexuality has a variety of effects on individuals and society at large which will be subsequently elaborated on. Next, some of the historical events, religious matters, and legal matters relating to homosexuality will also be covered. Finally, the latter part of the 20th century has seen a large body of research on the causes and effects of homosexuality; this will also be studied.

these factors will be addressed shortly - will also be covered - this will also be studied: Three times we are told that something is explained in the future. One time would be enough. And besides a repetition of actions, we see the same words popping up in such a short section: also, matter, factor, effect, individual and naturally homosexuality.

Biblical statements concerning homosexuality and secularism/homosexuality
Below are some Bible verses that condemn homosexuality: However, the bible cannot be interpreted literally, if this was the case then rebellious children would be killed: Deuteronomy 21:18-21. Also, Women may not speak in church: Cor 14:33-36. The bible is not a collection of dogmatic and strict rules, it is a book of God that promotes compassion, faith in God, truth, and love.

  • Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
  • Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
  • Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
  • I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV) - Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
  • I Timothy 1:8-11 (NASB) - "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted."
  • Bible or bible?
  • Verses should be quoted in parentheses - the abundance of colons is irritating (especially when more than two sentences are linked in this way).
  • Also, Women [sic] may not speak in church: also doesn't seem to be the right word to show that you don't subscribe to this sentence!
  • The whole section is unclear, you should have divided it into two parts, one for the Old, the other for the New Testament!
  • You should stick to one translation, NASB or NIV.

Generally I don't criticize others for their writing: As I'm not a native speaker this could be seen as presumptuous (you like it when someone uses this word self-mockingly, don't you?) But here, so many flaws are obvious to me that I've to ask myself what I've missed because of my lack of knowledge!

I'm sure that I committed many of the atrocities of which I accuse you in my comments (even in this one) - but I'm not writing the flagship-articles in this encyclopedia. And my errors can be corrected easily: obviously the articles to which I contribute aren't locked.

I hope that my comments help you to improve your article.

AugustO 15:35, 12 January 2012 (EST)

This article is very long, making it inconvenient to read. Most of the sections here seem to have their own pages. Editing is locked for regular users, so I can't do it, but has there been any discussion condensing the article to make it more reader-friendly? --JHunter 16:25, 26 January 2012 (EST)