| | :Christians often do this, they poo-poo Israel's place in the scheme of things, and say everything points to the coming messiah. Whereas the scripture teaches blood-washed, born-again Christians always existed at least as far back as "righteous [[Abel]]", Job who was "upright and perfect" long before there ever were 10 commandments, Abraham who feared God and it was reckoned unto him as righteousness, Mose who spoke to God face-to-face, Zachariah and Elizabeth in the Book of Luke, the widow of 84 years and Simon (I think his name was) all in New Testament scripture - all these were declared righteous before God long before Jesus ever died, buried, and was resurrected. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 21:30, July 15, 2024 (EDT) | | :Christians often do this, they poo-poo Israel's place in the scheme of things, and say everything points to the coming messiah. Whereas the scripture teaches blood-washed, born-again Christians always existed at least as far back as "righteous [[Abel]]", Job who was "upright and perfect" long before there ever were 10 commandments, Abraham who feared God and it was reckoned unto him as righteousness, Mose who spoke to God face-to-face, Zachariah and Elizabeth in the Book of Luke, the widow of 84 years and Simon (I think his name was) all in New Testament scripture - all these were declared righteous before God long before Jesus ever died, buried, and was resurrected. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 21:30, July 15, 2024 (EDT) |
| | ::RobSmith, when you say "Israel's place," are you referring to ancient Israel leading up to 34 A.D., or the modern secular-political "State of Israel"? The two are not the same thing. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 21:41, July 15, 2024 (EDT) | | ::RobSmith, when you say "Israel's place," are you referring to ancient Israel leading up to 34 A.D., or the modern secular-political "State of Israel"? The two are not the same thing. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 21:41, July 15, 2024 (EDT) |