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| | :::: Well ... what did he say about the [[Origin of the Moon]]??? Doesn't sound like he taught he truth, or you would probably would have remembered it better.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:59, 4 May 2008 (EDT) | | :::: Well ... what did he say about the [[Origin of the Moon]]??? Doesn't sound like he taught he truth, or you would probably would have remembered it better.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:59, 4 May 2008 (EDT) |
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| | + | ''She'' explained it, but it was like 3 years ago and I don't really remember much about it. I read the article on here about it and it was essentially the same idea from what I remember. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT) |
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| | * compulsive profanity | | * compulsive profanity |
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| | :::: Perhaps 10% of your class is regularly taking drugs, legal and illegal, for anxiety, and it's not due to tests. Your comment seems a bit out of touch.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:59, 4 May 2008 (EDT) | | :::: Perhaps 10% of your class is regularly taking drugs, legal and illegal, for anxiety, and it's not due to tests. Your comment seems a bit out of touch.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:59, 4 May 2008 (EDT) |
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| | + | There really isn't much drug use at our school, and it is pretty looked down upon. We have had a lot of education regarding this and most people stay away from it. But I guess for anxiety I am a bit out of touch because it seems like the people who have these problems don't really want to talk about it. I don't think that this is somehow caused by public school though, I think that it is just youth in general. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT) |
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| | * feeling that it is funny to be dumb | | * feeling that it is funny to be dumb |
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| | :::: Your comment does not address or rebut any of my three points.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:59, 4 May 2008 (EDT) | | :::: Your comment does not address or rebut any of my three points.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:59, 4 May 2008 (EDT) |
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| | + | It does address your points because I was giving examples of how one of my teachers talked about those issues. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT) |
| | * lack of awareness that prayer is censored in public schools and that teachers' unions are very liberal | | * lack of awareness that prayer is censored in public schools and that teachers' unions are very liberal |
| | as I said above, we know that mandatory prayer is illegal. I didn't know that the teacher's union is liberal, though. | | as I said above, we know that mandatory prayer is illegal. I didn't know that the teacher's union is liberal, though. |
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| | :::: You're in denial. You haven't heard voluntary classroom prayer once during all your years in [[public school]]. Try it with some friends and ask to start a class with a voluntary prayer, and watch what happens. You'll be censored, if not disciplined.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:59, 4 May 2008 (EDT) | | :::: You're in denial. You haven't heard voluntary classroom prayer once during all your years in [[public school]]. Try it with some friends and ask to start a class with a voluntary prayer, and watch what happens. You'll be censored, if not disciplined.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:59, 4 May 2008 (EDT) |
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| | + | Does prayer have to be out loud? There is nothing wrong with praying silently, I don't know what benefit there is from praying out loud. God still hears you the same. Again, we have the right to pray as long as it does not disrupt the class. As one of my teachers said, "As long as there are tests, there will be prayer in school". '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT) |
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| | * alcohol and drug abuse | | * alcohol and drug abuse |
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| | :::: No one said that teachers lose control over the classrooms, but that doesn't mean it isn't a problem. It's demoralizing and degrading.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:59, 4 May 2008 (EDT) | | :::: No one said that teachers lose control over the classrooms, but that doesn't mean it isn't a problem. It's demoralizing and degrading.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:59, 4 May 2008 (EDT) |
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| | + | Disrepect against teachers is usually dealt with quickly and with punishment. I remember a kid that gave a teacher the middle finger and he got suspended for a week. They also told him that if he ever did anything like that again he would be expelled. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT) |
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| | :::: I don't think you realize what goes on in less wealthy [[public schools]]. Do you have metal detectors in your school? Many do, but it doesn't sound like yours does.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:59, 4 May 2008 (EDT) | | :::: I don't think you realize what goes on in less wealthy [[public schools]]. Do you have metal detectors in your school? Many do, but it doesn't sound like yours does.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:59, 4 May 2008 (EDT) |
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| | + | My point is that gang activity isn't caused by public schools or somehow unique to them. Gang activity is usually caused by poverty, where parents can't afford to send their kids to private schools or have the education or time to homeschool them. |
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| | That is just a summary of my experience in the public school system. I think that it shows that a lot of the points are just presumed and don't really reflect a majority of public schoolers. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 14:33, 4 May 2008 (EDT) | | That is just a summary of my experience in the public school system. I think that it shows that a lot of the points are just presumed and don't really reflect a majority of public schoolers. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 14:33, 4 May 2008 (EDT) |
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| | :::: It's not stereotyping to describe a culture.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:59, 4 May 2008 (EDT) | | :::: It's not stereotyping to describe a culture.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:59, 4 May 2008 (EDT) |
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| | + | It is, because you are describing a small minority of teenagers and implying that everyone who goes to public school is just like them. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT) |