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:: But the teachers will not mention alternative theories, and they will not allow substantive criticism of the theory of evolution, such the implausibility of any evolutionary path for the [[whale]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:: But the teachers will not mention alternative theories, and they will not allow substantive criticism of the theory of evolution, such the implausibility of any evolutionary path for the [[whale]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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* sex education, homosexual curriculum and sexual abuse by school personnel has been referred to as a "red-light district" for students
 
* sex education, homosexual curriculum and sexual abuse by school personnel has been referred to as a "red-light district" for students
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:: [[Homosexual]] indoctrination in [[public schools]] has grown enormously in recent years.  Sex abuse by public school personnel is rampant, and a whole series of newspaper articles uncovered this.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:: [[Homosexual]] indoctrination in [[public schools]] has grown enormously in recent years.  Sex abuse by public school personnel is rampant, and a whole series of newspaper articles uncovered this.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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* a culture of incompetence
 
* a culture of incompetence
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:: Not sure myself.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:: Not sure myself.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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* fashion that includes black (Goth) clothing
 
* fashion that includes black (Goth) clothing
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:: Look around more, and you'll begin to notice more.  Observations, by the way, do not depend on it being wrong.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:: Look around more, and you'll begin to notice more.  Observations, by the way, do not depend on it being wrong.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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* depressed demeanors  
 
* depressed demeanors  
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:: I can often spot a public school student just by the depressed expression on his or her face.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:: I can often spot a public school student just by the depressed expression on his or her face.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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* an absence of objective morality; instead, a principal will say someone 'made the wrong choice'
 
* an absence of objective morality; instead, a principal will say someone 'made the wrong choice'
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:: Listen to what principals say after a kid is busted for drugs.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:: Listen to what principals say after a kid is busted for drugs.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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* a sense of hopelessness  
 
* a sense of hopelessness  
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:: Maybe you don't notice it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:: Maybe you don't notice it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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* a lack of critical thinking about liberal indoctrination  
 
* a lack of critical thinking about liberal indoctrination  
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''She'' explained it, but it was like 3 years ago and I don't really remember much about it. I read the article on here about it and it was essentially the same idea from what I remember. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
''She'' explained it, but it was like 3 years ago and I don't really remember much about it. I read the article on here about it and it was essentially the same idea from what I remember. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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* compulsive profanity  
 
* compulsive profanity  
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:: OK, I respect your admission here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:: OK, I respect your admission here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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* general inability to look someone in the eye  
 
* general inability to look someone in the eye  
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:: OK.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:: OK.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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* extreme anxiety
 
* extreme anxiety
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There really isn't much drug use at our school, and it is pretty looked down upon. We have had a lot of education regarding this and most people stay away from it. But I guess for anxiety I am a bit out of touch because it seems like the people who have these problems don't really want to talk about it. I don't think that this is somehow caused by public school though, I think that it is just youth in general. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
There really isn't much drug use at our school, and it is pretty looked down upon. We have had a lot of education regarding this and most people stay away from it. But I guess for anxiety I am a bit out of touch because it seems like the people who have these problems don't really want to talk about it. I don't think that this is somehow caused by public school though, I think that it is just youth in general. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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* feeling that it is funny to be dumb  
 
* feeling that it is funny to be dumb  
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:: OK, thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:: OK, thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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* being so accustomed to censorship of ideas that there is genuine surprise when someone actually says something unfamiliar or politically incorrect  
 
* being so accustomed to censorship of ideas that there is genuine surprise when someone actually says something unfamiliar or politically incorrect  
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It does address your points because I was giving examples of how one of my teachers talked about those issues. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
It does address your points because I was giving examples of how one of my teachers talked about those issues. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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* lack of awareness that prayer is censored in public schools and that teachers' unions are very liberal  
 
* lack of awareness that prayer is censored in public schools and that teachers' unions are very liberal  
 
as I said above, we know that mandatory prayer is illegal. I didn't know that the teacher's union is liberal, though.
 
as I said above, we know that mandatory prayer is illegal. I didn't know that the teacher's union is liberal, though.
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Does prayer have to be out loud? There is nothing wrong with praying silently, I don't know what benefit there is from praying out loud. God still hears you the same. Again, we have the right to pray as long as it does not disrupt the class. As one of my teachers said, "As long as there are tests, there will be prayer in school". '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
Does prayer have to be out loud? There is nothing wrong with praying silently, I don't know what benefit there is from praying out loud. God still hears you the same. Again, we have the right to pray as long as it does not disrupt the class. As one of my teachers said, "As long as there are tests, there will be prayer in school". '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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* alcohol and drug abuse  
 
* alcohol and drug abuse  
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:: 34% is huge, and the 5% is an underestimate (or perhaps the "frequently" adjective is the trick there).--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:: 34% is huge, and the 5% is an underestimate (or perhaps the "frequently" adjective is the trick there).--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:::Alcohol is a particularly large problem at our school, but it is declining. The statistic for ever ''trying'' marijuana was much larger, but many students didn't find an appeal to it and never tried it again.
 
:::Alcohol is a particularly large problem at our school, but it is declining. The statistic for ever ''trying'' marijuana was much larger, but many students didn't find an appeal to it and never tried it again.
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* disrespect for teachers  
 
* disrespect for teachers  
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Disrepect against teachers is usually dealt with quickly and with punishment. I remember a kid that gave a teacher the middle finger and he got suspended for a week. They also told him that if he ever did anything like that again he would be expelled. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
Disrepect against teachers is usually dealt with quickly and with punishment. I remember a kid that gave a teacher the middle finger and he got suspended for a week. They also told him that if he ever did anything like that again he would be expelled. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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* bullying  
 
* bullying  
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:: OK.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:: OK.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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* gang activity
 
* gang activity
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:::: I don't think you realize what goes on in less wealthy [[public schools]].  Do you have metal detectors in your school?  Many do, but it doesn't sound like yours does.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:59, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:::: I don't think you realize what goes on in less wealthy [[public schools]].  Do you have metal detectors in your school?  Many do, but it doesn't sound like yours does.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:59, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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My point is that gang activity isn't caused by public schools or somehow unique to them. Gang activity is usually caused by poverty, where parents can't afford to send their kids to private schools or have the education or time to homeschool them.
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My point is that gang activity isn't caused by public schools or somehow unique to them. Gang activity is usually caused by poverty, where parents can't afford to send their kids to private schools or have the education or time to homeschool them. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup>
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That is just a summary of my experience in the public school system. I think that it shows that a lot of the points are just presumed and don't really reflect a majority of public schoolers. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 14:33, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
That is just a summary of my experience in the public school system. I think that it shows that a lot of the points are just presumed and don't really reflect a majority of public schoolers. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 14:33, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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