Difference between revisions of "Talk:Sulu"

Revision as of 23:54, December 30, 2008

Suggestion

With all respect to the original author, I am wondering if this page should be included into the existing Star Trek page? --₮K^/Talk! 18:24, 29 December 2008 (EST)

You don't explain why, so I'll assume that it's to avoid lots of small articles about individual characters?

I don't agree with it being on the Star Trek page. Conservapedia wants concise articles, and the Star Trek article is already a fair size (in fact I think the religion section should be removed to a separate article).

I support this article staying, but an alternative is to have a single article covering all the main characters ("Star Trek characters", "Characters of Star Trek"?) rather than separate articles for each.

Philip J. Rayment 18:58, 29 December 2008 (EST)

You surmised correctly, Philip. I agree, as a compromise, a single linked page to the Star Trek main article, detailing the characters. Perhaps detailing the main characters of all three Star Trek series. And I also agree with your suggestion about putting the religion discussion onto its own, linked page. --₮K^/Talk! 19:07, 29 December 2008 (EST)

There's been five live-action series. I'm not sure whether putting them all on the one page is a good idea; one page per series might be better (although a few overlap series).

As a minimum, the page(s) should contain details of all the regular characters:

Original series	Next Generation	DS9	Voyager	Enterprise
Kirk Spock McCoy Scotty Sulu Uhura Chekov	Picard Riker La Forge Yar Worf Beverly Crusher Troi Data Wesley Crusher	Benjamin Sisko Odo Worf Dax Jake Sisko O'Brien Quark Bashir Kira	Janeway Chakotay Torres Kes Paris Neelix the doctor Tuvok Seven of Nine Kim	Archer Phlox T'Pol Reed Mayweather Sato Tucker

And I've missed a few (including at least two from Next Gen). Plus there's a number of other semi-regular ones that could be included. Putting all them on one page is going to make for a large page, even given only a paragraph or two each.

Philip J. Rayment 10:10, 30 December 2008 (EST)

Great contribution, Philip! Perhaps, since you can, you will add that as a template once others read this and add the missing players? --₮K^/Talk! 16:06, 30 December 2008 (EST)

If we have separate articles on (most or) all those characters, a nav-box template would be a good idea, but unless/until then, I'm not sure there's much point. Philip J. Rayment 18:31, 30 December 2008 (EST)

Sometimes I am obtuse, to be sure, but then I don't understand the reason for your work above. Anyway, as you wish, Philip. --₮K^/Talk! 18:52, 30 December 2008 (EST)

May I add a few? Next Gen: Q, Guinan. DS9: Nog, Rom, Female Changeling, Weyoun (post-Season 5), Gul Dukat. Enterprise: Degra (Season 3).-TitusL 18:54, 30 December 2008 (EST)

Homosexuality

I can't find the rule right now, and perhaps we have never adequately documented it (so the following may not be the exact criteria), but we don't include information such as a person being homosexual unless both of the following criteria are satisfied:

• That their homosexuality is certain.
• That their homosexuality is a defining aspect of their life, such as them being a homosexual activist.

As far as I'm aware, the second of these points at least is not the case here, which is why I've reverted the claim a second time.

Philip J. Rayment 19:47, 29 December 2008 (EST)

He's been on a gay speaking tour. Is that enough to satisfy #2?[1] - Rod Weathers 19:57, 29 December 2008 (EST)

Perhaps so. Philip J. Rayment 05:42, 30 December 2008 (EST)

He recently took part in a UK reality TV series (set in the Australian rain forest) in which he openly prosyletised for his particular orientation. Bugler 05:50, 30 December 2008 (EST)

Added info

Since this is an article about Sulu, should we really be adding personal info about George Takei? I mean, it makes sense to say Sulu was played by "openly homosexual actor George Takei," but all the information about Takei's "marriage" is terribly out of place. LiamG 02:05, 30 December 2008 (EST)

• On reflection, Liam, I agree. I didn't exactly see the linkage and article about the real person, George Takei, when I added it.....just read the discussion about his being Gay, which I thought everyone on the planet knew by now, and had a link about the "marriage". I will remove the extra information, and thanks for bringing it up! --₮K^/Talk! 02:26, 30 December 2008 (EST)