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Talk:John 1-7 (Translated) (view source)
Revision as of 19:41, September 22, 2012
, 19:41, September 22, 2012→Strange change of perspective
:::No word is a perfect expression of the intended meaning. In English today, "us" is closer to John's meaning than "world", which has an overly materialistic connotation today.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:33, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
:::No word is a perfect expression of the intended meaning. In English today, "us" is closer to John's meaning than "world", which has an overly materialistic connotation today.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:33, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
Would you support, then, the translation of John 17:18 to "As You sent Me into us, I have sent them into us."? Same word there.<br />
I could get behind a translation to "men" or "the inhabitants of earth" as a translation for this, because that's what John was saying with "the world". God loves EVERYONE in the world, and so gave his Only Son. To use "Us", however, makes it sound like John is saying "Me, you, and them". Which he's not. He means everyone. For example, if I said "My parents really love us", would that mean they love everyone in the world, or me (PeterRyan), you (Aschlafly), and them (whoever else we have been talking about)? [[User:PeterRyan|PeterRyan]] 15:41, 22 September 2012 (EDT)