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:Trump's immigration law enforcement and border security efforts would prevent other states from turning into California, so the Democrats shouldn't feel too copacetic about that.  And Cruz may not even ''be'' in the race, which will encourage Rubio, Carson and Bush to neither drop out nor endorse Cruz.  The spread between Cruz and Trump should depend a lot on endorsements, as Andy predicted, and Palin's endorsement of Trump today certainly didn't help Cruz. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) 01:29, 20 January 2016 (EST)
 
:Trump's immigration law enforcement and border security efforts would prevent other states from turning into California, so the Democrats shouldn't feel too copacetic about that.  And Cruz may not even ''be'' in the race, which will encourage Rubio, Carson and Bush to neither drop out nor endorse Cruz.  The spread between Cruz and Trump should depend a lot on endorsements, as Andy predicted, and Palin's endorsement of Trump today certainly didn't help Cruz. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) 01:29, 20 January 2016 (EST)
 
::I meant that Cruz is more threatening to the Democrats because he is more electable, for the reasons Nate Silver outlined in the article I linked to above. Over at ''National Review'', they have "[http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429952/ted-cruz-donald-trump-gop-establishment-prefers-trump What’s Driving the Establishment’s Preference for Trump over Cruz?]" They don't really answer the question though. Jeb Bush was the establishment's favorite until recently. As far as Democrats and independents go, the Bush name is poison. So whatever motivates the establishment to back a particular candidate, it's not electability. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 02:09, 20 January 2016 (EST)
 
::I meant that Cruz is more threatening to the Democrats because he is more electable, for the reasons Nate Silver outlined in the article I linked to above. Over at ''National Review'', they have "[http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429952/ted-cruz-donald-trump-gop-establishment-prefers-trump What’s Driving the Establishment’s Preference for Trump over Cruz?]" They don't really answer the question though. Jeb Bush was the establishment's favorite until recently. As far as Democrats and independents go, the Bush name is poison. So whatever motivates the establishment to back a particular candidate, it's not electability. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 02:09, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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:::A lot of Republicans will acquiesce if Trump becomes the nominee.  And Trump and the RNC have barely begun to challenge Hillary.  ''Nobody's'' challenged Sanders.  And if Trump articulates his vision well in the debates his numbers are bound to improve.  Plus the swing voters who don't consume conservative media will be hearing the arguments against Hillary for the first time, and there are a lot of negatives that can be said about her. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) 06:12, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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