| | ::Deep Space Nine, Voyager, and possibly Enterprise can probably stay on here, but Star Trek and The Next Generation, definitely not. | | ::Deep Space Nine, Voyager, and possibly Enterprise can probably stay on here, but Star Trek and The Next Generation, definitely not. |
| − | ::There is one question, though. I'm probably a bit clueless regarding this, so forgive me for asking, but how exactly does Star Fleet's HQ being in San Francisco indicate anything about politics, much less it being of the left? There have been conservative elements in there, believe it or not. For starters, the March for Life back in 2011. There was also a law that explicitly violated homosexual marriages, and the mayor and clerk got into deep trouble as well. | + | ::There is one question, though. I'm probably a bit clueless regarding this, so forgive me for asking, but how exactly does Star Fleet's HQ being in San Francisco indicate anything about politics, much less it being of the left? There have been conservative elements in there, believe it or not. For starters, the March for Life back in 2011. There was also a law that explicitly violated homosexual marriages, and the mayor and clerk got into deep trouble as well. And besides, there are a few conservative shows that are set in very liberal cities. Just look at Blue Bloods, for example: The series is set in New York City, probably one of the most liberal cities out there, yet it actually espoused strongly conservative values via the Reagan family, or at the very least libertarian values. |
| | ::I'm a bible-believing Christian, but I wouldn't necessarily rule out the existence of Vulcans or aliens. Space is a vast area, and I find it hard to believe God would make most of the universe lifeless save for Earth, so I'm not exactly sure that's evidence about the show being leftist. The bit about the USA no longer existing as a sovereign nation but instead being part of a one world government that was socialistic in nature and acts more like a United Nations in the form of the Federation of Planets, and religion, IF portrayed or even mentioned at all, is denigrated, and the overall promotion of socialism, multiculturalism, and even relaxation of sexual morality (Captain Kirk's infamous escapades is one notable example) certainly disqualifies TNG and even TOS from even being remotely conservative and if anything more likely liberal. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 08:05, 28 February 2016 (EST) | | ::I'm a bible-believing Christian, but I wouldn't necessarily rule out the existence of Vulcans or aliens. Space is a vast area, and I find it hard to believe God would make most of the universe lifeless save for Earth, so I'm not exactly sure that's evidence about the show being leftist. The bit about the USA no longer existing as a sovereign nation but instead being part of a one world government that was socialistic in nature and acts more like a United Nations in the form of the Federation of Planets, and religion, IF portrayed or even mentioned at all, is denigrated, and the overall promotion of socialism, multiculturalism, and even relaxation of sexual morality (Captain Kirk's infamous escapades is one notable example) certainly disqualifies TNG and even TOS from even being remotely conservative and if anything more likely liberal. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 08:05, 28 February 2016 (EST) |