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:I personally can't agree with you regarding Sanders being better than Trump. I'm concerned that Trump has made a lot of promises he can't keep, but he really does want to "make America great again." The problem here is that his definition of great may differ from ours. Sanders, however, offers handouts that the country cannot afford, and which discourage productivity. We are already hopelessly in debt, and he want to push us all the way to complete, unashamed [[socialism]]. All the while, he complains about "the 1%" while living in one of his several mansions, and filthy rich. At least Trump is honest about his wealth, instead of hiding it like Sanders.
:I personally can't agree with you regarding Sanders being better than Trump. I'm concerned that Trump has made a lot of promises he can't keep, but he really does want to "make America great again." The problem here is that his definition of great may differ from ours. Sanders, however, offers handouts that the country cannot afford, and which discourage productivity. We are already hopelessly in debt, and he want to push us all the way to complete, unashamed [[socialism]]. All the while, he complains about "the 1%" while living in one of his several mansions, and filthy rich. At least Trump is honest about his wealth, instead of hiding it like Sanders.
:On your second point, I completely agree. The Bible refers to such things as meeting with the church and serving others as "fruits." If the tree is alive (in Christ) is bears much fruit, but it is not the fruits which save them. Christ saves them, and the fruits are a natural result. These "fruits" will not be perfect, and sometimes there may be times of less productivity. However, Christ helps us to produce them to further His will and bring some of the glory to Him which He deserves. I am not a Roman Catholic, but from what I have seen and heard, Catholics do seem to be very works-oriented. Correct me if I'm wrong (since I'm sure you know better than I), but "here goes." The expected attendance of Mass as an obligation which must be fulfilled, the repeating of phrases which you can't understand, and penance are all a sort of thing which must be done to assure salvation and acceptance. Although I think him a bit too liberal of a Christian, [http://caryschmidt.com Cary Schmidt] wrote an interesting book called "done." (with the period) on the topic. He brings out that Protestants (like myself) believe in a salvation which is already "done." Christ has died, and if trust if put in this alone for salvation, there is nothing else that must be done to secure salvation. Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses, and many cults believe that they must "do" things so secure their salvation. They probably act hypocritically towards you because they see themselves fulfilling all the requirement (barely) while you are not. That's how I understand this, anyway.
:On your second point, I completely agree. The Bible refers to such things as meeting with the church and serving others as "fruits." If the tree is alive (in Christ) is bears much fruit, but it is not the fruits which save them. Christ saves them, and the fruits are a natural result. These "fruits" will not be perfect, and sometimes there may be times of less productivity. However, Christ helps us to produce them to further His will and bring some of the glory to Him which He deserves. I am not a Roman Catholic, but from what I have seen and heard, Catholics do seem to be very works-oriented. Correct me if I'm wrong (since I'm sure you know better than I), but "here goes." The expected attendance of Mass as an obligation which must be fulfilled, the repeating of phrases which you can't understand, and penance are all a sort of thing which must be done to assure salvation and acceptance. Although I think him a bit too liberal of a Christian, [http://caryschmidt.com Cary Schmidt] wrote an interesting book called "done." (with the period) on the topic. He brings out that Protestants (like myself) believe in a salvation which is already "done." Christ has died, and if trust if put in this alone for salvation, there is nothing else that must be done to secure salvation. Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses, and many cults believe that they must "do" things so secure their salvation. They probably act hypocritically towards you because they see themselves fulfilling all the requirement (barely) while you are not. That's how I understand this, anyway. --(David B, 10 June 2016)
::About your first paragraph; I never said I'd choose Bernie over Trump, but him ''or'' Trump. I ultimately ended up voting for Trump after switching from Independent to a Republican to vote in the NJ primary that took place a few days ago. There were other people in the GOP ticket for other offices like Bob Patterson that I preferred after vetting the candidates as much as I could, but this was impeded by a lack of information accessible on the internet.
::About your first paragraph; I never said I'd choose Bernie over Trump, but him ''or'' Trump. I ultimately ended up voting for Trump after switching from Independent to a Republican to vote in the NJ primary that took place a few days ago. There were other people in the GOP ticket for other offices like Bob Patterson that I preferred after vetting the candidates as much as I could, but this was impeded by a lack of information accessible on the internet.
::Bernie Sanders is, like I said, waaay too liberal. He wants to expand the toxic Canadian-European atmosphere in this country where it just doesn't belong. The only things I like him for are his methods of raising money and the fact that he isn't and opposes Hillary Clinton. I want to believe that he has the nation's best interests at heart, but that he simply has no clue what the right thing to do is. Hillary is the bigger threat as her superdelegates assured her winning the election before the nomination process even started. (another reason why I'm a Republican) --[[User:KommissarReb|KommissarReb]]14:25, 10 June 2016 (EDT)
::Bernie Sanders is, like I said, waaay too liberal. He wants to expand the toxic Canadian-European atmosphere in this country where it just doesn't belong. The only things I like him for are his methods of raising money and the fact that he isn't and opposes Hillary Clinton. I want to believe that he has the nation's best interests at heart, but that he simply has no clue what the right thing to do is. Hillary is the bigger threat as her superdelegates assured her winning the election before the nomination process even started. (another reason why I'm a Republican) --[[User:KommissarReb|KommissarReb]]14:25, 10 June 2016 (EDT)
:::Perhaps I misunderstood your meaning somewhat then. In any case, the Clintons always make it through, whether they use bribes, deceit, murder, or other underhanded methods, so I thoroughly expect Mrs. Clinton to beat Sanders. The one wildcard is the FBI investigation. If Obama has his way, she will be let off the hook. However, if he is not able to orchestrate such a miscarriage of justice, she might really end up in some hot water. If she is removed from the race, it will then to the ignorant public seem that it is two "old, rich white guys" fighting for the position. In the end, that will help Trump as it eliminates the "gender card."
:::In any case, perhaps I am too hard on Sanders, but I am still suspicious about his true intentions. Sure, he means what he says, but I think he cares primarily about giving people whatever they want, regardless of the cost. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that this is not going to help our country. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|talk]]) 08:18, 13 June 2016 (EDT)