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:::::Perhaps we're more civil because they learned their lesson and didn't attempt to override the will of Parliament/the people. And, no offense, but observing/discussing what hats/dresses/coats/shoes that royals choose to wear seems to be a peculiar fascination limited just to Americans. Most Britons don't notice and don't care. We see her on the stamps and the banknotes, is about all. [[User:NeilWalker|NeilWalker]] ([[User talk:NeilWalker|talk]]) 16:39, 20 August 2017 (EDT)

:::::Perhaps we're more civil because they learned their lesson and didn't attempt to override the will of Parliament/the people. And, no offense, but observing/discussing what hats/dresses/coats/shoes that royals choose to wear seems to be a peculiar fascination limited just to Americans. Most Britons don't notice and don't care. We see her on the stamps and the banknotes, is about all. [[User:NeilWalker|NeilWalker]] ([[User talk:NeilWalker|talk]]) 16:39, 20 August 2017 (EDT)

::::::The UK media seemed to care, both on the Left[http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-40356113][https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2017/jun/21/queens-hat-alludes-to-brexit][http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/queens-speech-ascot-eu-flag-hat-a7801611.html] and Right.[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4625130/Queen-speech-hat-looks-suspiciously-like-EU-flag.html][http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/21/queen-trying-tell-us-something-brexit-hat/] --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:44, 20 August 2017 (EDT)

::::::The UK media seemed to care, both on the Left[http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-40356113][https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2017/jun/21/queens-hat-alludes-to-brexit][http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/queens-speech-ascot-eu-flag-hat-a7801611.html] and Right.[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4625130/Queen-speech-hat-looks-suspiciously-like-EU-flag.html][http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/21/queen-trying-tell-us-something-brexit-hat/] --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:44, 20 August 2017 (EDT)

::The Queen does not "veto" Acts because, like America, Britain is what we call "a democracy". The Queen does not attempt to exercise her personal will over the will of the people. The experience of the American Revolution is just one of the reasons why. Meanwhile, the ignorant are allowed to edit war the article to insert their fallacious opinions. Hmm, I begin to see the problem here. [[User:NeilWalker|NeilWalker]] ([[User talk:NeilWalker|talk]]) 16:36, 20 August 2017 (EDT)

::The Queen does not "veto" Acts because, like America, Britain is what we call "a democracy". The Queen does not attempt to exercise her personal will over the will of the people. The experience of the American Revolution is just one of the reasons why. Meanwhile, the ignorant are allowed to edit war the article to insert their fallacious opinions. Hmm, I begin to see the problem here. [[User:NeilWalker|NeilWalker]] ([[User talk:NeilWalker|talk]]) 16:36, 20 August 2017 (EDT)

:::What I'm saying is that it seems that the Queen has the ability to veto (or "not sign" or whatever you call it in the UK). Of course it would be unprecedented, but I think someone with more guts would do it. We could not the precedent of not vetoing legislation along with that paragraph, explaining why she did not veto the bills. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:44, 20 August 2017 (EDT)

:::What I'm saying is that it seems that the Queen has the ability to veto (or "not sign" or whatever you call it in the UK). Of course it would be unprecedented, but I think someone with more guts would do it. We could not the precedent of not vetoing legislation along with that paragraph, explaining why she did not veto the bills. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:44, 20 August 2017 (EDT)

::::I'm not really interested in arguing over it; the addition claiming that the Queen is a pro-abortion liberal is so silly that any educated reader will see it for what it is. Far be it for me, a mere history teacher, to override the fallacious opinions of ''Lord of the Rings'' fans' edits (between their warning of tomorrow's nuclear attack on New York City.) I believe your nemesis Wikipedia suffers similar problems, saying: "For some reason people who spend 40 years learning everything they can about, say, the Peloponnesian War—and indeed, advancing the body of human knowledge—get all pi**y when their contributions are edited away by Randy in Boise who heard somewhere that sword-wielding skeletons were involved. And they get downright irate when asked politely to engage in discourse with Randy until the sword-skeleton theory can be incorporated into the article without passing judgment." [[User:NeilWalker|NeilWalker]] ([[User talk:NeilWalker|talk]]) 17:14, 20 August 2017 (EDT)

::::I'm not really interested in arguing over it; the addition claiming that the Queen is a pro-abortion liberal is so silly that any educated reader will see it for what it is. Far be it for me, a mere history teacher, to override the fallacious opinions of ''Lord of the Rings'' fans' edits (between their warning of tomorrow's nuclear attack on New York City.) I believe your nemesis Wikipedia suffers similar problems, saying: "For some reason people who spend 40 years learning everything they can about, say, the Peloponnesian War—and indeed, advancing the body of human knowledge—get all pi**y when their contributions are edited away by Randy in Boise who heard somewhere that sword-wielding skeletons were involved. And they get downright irate when asked politely to engage in discourse with Randy until the sword-skeleton theory can be incorporated into the article without passing judgment." [[User:NeilWalker|NeilWalker]] ([[User talk:NeilWalker|talk]]) 17:14, 20 August 2017 (EDT)

:::::What do you think about this: we keep the fact that the Queen has signed these pieces of legislation, but we include the fact that there is a precedent not to interfere with Parliament, regardless of what they pass? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:20, 20 August 2017 (EDT)

:::::What do you think about this: we keep the fact that the Queen has signed these pieces of legislation, but we include the fact that there is a precedent not to interfere with Parliament, regardless of what they pass? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:20, 20 August 2017 (EDT)