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→‎Example illustrates why "as Man" is more accurate than "of Man": sporting events that last only 60 seconds (or where the referees ensure that one side will win) are not interesting to atheists, so it's illogical to think they'd be interesting to God
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:::::I'm sorry, but if he died to save "us", that is mankind collectively, then where's the logic in several billion souls being denied salvation because of his failure to communicate to a global audience? [[User:JohnZ|JohnZ]] ([[User talk:JohnZ|talk]]) 18:56, 22 November 2018 (EST)
 
:::::I'm sorry, but if he died to save "us", that is mankind collectively, then where's the logic in several billion souls being denied salvation because of his failure to communicate to a global audience? [[User:JohnZ|JohnZ]] ([[User talk:JohnZ|talk]]) 18:56, 22 November 2018 (EST)
 
::::::Either way, the meaning is the same. It's speaks Jesus's humanity. "What think ye Christ, whose son is he, David's or God's?" The answer is both. This is the primary difference between Christianity and Judaism and Islam. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 18:58, 22 November 2018 (EST)
 
::::::Either way, the meaning is the same. It's speaks Jesus's humanity. "What think ye Christ, whose son is he, David's or God's?" The answer is both. This is the primary difference between Christianity and Judaism and Islam. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 18:58, 22 November 2018 (EST)
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::::::JohnZ, you're making a lot of circular assumptions in your statement.  Most of the non-believers hear his message but reject it.  Are you implying that God should force everyone to accept him?
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::::::The incoherence of [[atheism]] becomes clearer when its objections are taken to their logical conclusions.  Often they are of the form, "if God is all-powerful, then why doesn't he do such-and-such?"  But sporting events that last only 60 seconds (or where the referees ensure that one side will win) are not interesting to atheists, so it's illogical to think they'd be interesting to God.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 19:43, 22 November 2018 (EST)
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