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===Salvation===
===Salvation===
Let's go back to John 3:3,5. Jesus first says,
Let's go back to John 3:3,5. Jesus first says,
:''Except a man be born again, he cannot '''see''' the kingdom of God.''
:''Except a man be born again, he cannot '''see''' the Kingdom of God.''
In verse 5 he says.
In verse 5 he says.
:''Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot '''enter''' into the kingdom of God.
:''Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot '''enter''' into the Kingdom of God.
So, what is the difference between "seeing" the Kingdom of God, and "entering" the Kingdom of God? Moses saw the Promised Land, but did not enter. Was Moses saved? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 20:25, 27 October 2019 (EDT)
So, what is the difference between "seeing" the Kingdom of God, and "entering" the Kingdom of God? Moses saw the Promised Land, but did not enter. Was Moses saved? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 20:25, 27 October 2019 (EDT)
Now, being immersed in the spirit, reconcile for me these two passages, and I'll believe that you are not unskillful in the word of God. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 22:41, 27 October 2019 (EDT)
Now, being immersed in the spirit, reconcile for me these two passages, and I'll believe that you are not unskillful in the word of God. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 22:41, 27 October 2019 (EDT)
::''we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.''
::''But we have the mind of Christ.''
:So, to restate: ''No (natural) man hath seen God at any time...'' Moses had the ''mind of Christ'' enabling him to speak with the Lord ''face to face''.
::Exodus 33:13: ''Now therefore, I pray thee, if I have found '''grace''' in thy sight, shew me now thy way, that I may know thee, that I may find grace in thy sight''
:Salvation is by grace. You must have the mind of Christ, without which no man can see God (or ''see the Kingdom of God'')
:It's pretty simple. It's not rocket science. God never intended it to be a scholarly exercise. It's gotta be simple enough for a child to understand. Just remember, ''That which is flesh is flesh, that which is spirit is spirit.'' Baptism is of the spirit, not of the flesh. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 03:46, 28 October 2019 (EDT)