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:::The words "nature" and "procession" are in the Bible, but not "procession of nature". Are we to assume that if the Trinity doctrine is that the Son and the Holy Spirit proceed from the Father not just in name, nor as creation that it's somehow embarrassing that "procession of nature" "is not in the Bible."? That's what your mode of argument suggests. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Saturday, 16:30, 2 November 2019 (EDT)
:::The words "nature" and "procession" are in the Bible, but not "procession of nature". Are we to assume that if the Trinity doctrine is that the Son and the Holy Spirit proceed from the Father not just in name, nor as creation that it's somehow embarrassing that "procession of nature" "is not in the Bible."? That's what your mode of argument suggests. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Saturday, 16:30, 2 November 2019 (EDT)
:::'Trinity' is what you call a teaching aid. Some call it a doctrine. I prefer to call it an 'aspect' of God. Calling it a doctrine can create more problems than it's worth. But I'm sure I'll get arguments in Christian circles. OTOH, Abu Musab Zarqawi's group was called the Group for Monotheism and Jihad, and they refer to Christians and messianic Shiites as polytheists. So I think my POV is still a ways off for mainstream Christian churches to stop teaching non-biblical doctrines, which they won't until the beheaders are at the door.
::::'Trinity' is what you call a teaching aid. Some call it a doctrine. I prefer to call it an 'aspect' of God. Calling it a doctrine can create more problems than it's worth. But I'm sure I'll get arguments in Christian circles. OTOH, Abu Musab Zarqawi's group was called the Group for Monotheism and Jihad, and they refer to Christians and messianic Shiites as polytheists. So I think my POV is still a ways off for mainstream Christian churches to stop teaching non-biblical doctrines, which they won't until the beheaders are at the door.
:::Trust the Word. It's self explanatory. It doesn't need these short-cut mechanisms to give people an excuse to ignore reading the Word. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 01:09, 3 November 2019 (EDT)
::::Trust the Word. It's self explanatory. It doesn't need these short-cut mechanisms to give people an excuse to ignore reading the Word. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 01:09, 3 November 2019 (EDT)