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:::::::::::'''Both:''' Christ and the baptizer in one body. '''The sanctifying work of Christ through baptism.''' "Christ loved the Church and gave himself up for her, that '''he''' might '''sanctify''' her, having '''cleansed''' her by the '''washing of water ''with'' the word''', that '''he''' might present the church '''to himself''' in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be '''holy''' and without blemish." Ephesians 5:25-27. "'''He saved us''', not because of deeds done by us in righteousness, but in virtue of his own mercy, '''by the [http://biblehub.com/greek/3067.htm λουτρού water-washing of regeneration and renewal in the Holy Spirit'''] which he '''poured out upon us''' richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that we might be '''justified''' by '''his''' grace and become heirs in hope of eternal life." Titus 3:5-7. "Except a person be '''born of water and the Spirit''', a person cannot enter the kingdom of God." John 3:5.<br> --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 22:22, 3 November 2019 (EST)<br>

:::::::::::'''Both:''' Christ and the baptizer in one body. '''The sanctifying work of Christ through baptism.''' "Christ loved the Church and gave himself up for her, that '''he''' might '''sanctify''' her, having '''cleansed''' her by the '''washing of water ''with'' the word''', that '''he''' might present the church '''to himself''' in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be '''holy''' and without blemish." Ephesians 5:25-27. "'''He saved us''', not because of deeds done by us in righteousness, but in virtue of his own mercy, '''by the [http://biblehub.com/greek/3067.htm λουτρού water-washing of regeneration and renewal in the Holy Spirit'''] which he '''poured out upon us''' richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that we might be '''justified''' by '''his''' grace and become heirs in hope of eternal life." Titus 3:5-7. "Except a person be '''born of water and the Spirit''', a person cannot enter the kingdom of God." John 3:5.<br> --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 22:22, 3 November 2019 (EST)<br>

::::::::::::Huh? Why is it so difficult to answer a simple question (and for good measure, you toss in ''washing of water with the word'', again).  You know good and well that only the shed blood of Jesus and his resurrection brings our salvation. You also know salvation is by the grace of God, and cannot be earned by works.  Why can't you just say that? Stop refuting God, and denying God's work, and making the claim that your salvation is dependent on an action on YOUR part. That, is ''another gospel, which is no gospel at all.''  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]} 22:43, 3 November 2019 (EST)

::::::::::::Huh? Why is it so difficult to answer a simple question (and for good measure, you toss in ''washing of water with the word'', again).  You know good and well that only the shed blood of Jesus and his resurrection brings our salvation. You also know salvation is by the grace of God, and cannot be earned by works.  Why can't you just say that? Stop refuting God, and denying God's work, and making the claim that your salvation is dependent on an action on YOUR part. That, is ''another gospel, which is no gospel at all.''  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]} 22:43, 3 November 2019 (EST)

:::::::::::Three scriptural texts demonstrate that it is Christ himself doing the work of baptism for '''salvation''' directly '''through''' the members of his Church by what they do in obedience to his will in baptism, which he himself ordained as the ordinary means of salvation.—"Now '''you are the body of Christ''' and individually members of it." 1&nbsp;Corinthians 12:27. "for '''God is at work in you''', both to will and to '''work''' for his good pleasure." Philippians 2:13. "There is '''one body and one Spirit''', just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call, one Lord, one faith, '''one baptism''', one God and Father of us all, who is above all and '''through all and in all'''." Ephesians 4:4-6. "'''Go therefore''' and make disciples of all nations, '''baptizing''' them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you '''always''', to the end of the world. Matthew 28:19-10.--[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 22:54, 3 November 2019 (EST) (this edit was prepared ready to post just before discovering at the same time an edit conflict by the following edits by RobSmith below)

:::::::::::Three scriptural texts demonstrate that it is Christ himself doing the work of baptism for '''salvation''' directly '''through''' the members of his Church by what they do in obedience to his will in baptism, which he himself ordained as the ordinary means of salvation.—"Now '''you are the body of Christ''' and individually members of it." 1&nbsp;Corinthians 12:27. "for '''God is at work in you''', both to will and to '''work''' for his good pleasure." Philippians 2:13. "There is '''one body and one Spirit''', just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call, one Lord, one faith, '''one baptism''', one God and Father of us all, who is above all and '''through all and in all'''." Ephesians 4:4-6. "'''Go therefore''' and make disciples of all nations, '''baptizing''' them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you '''always''', to the end of the world. Matthew 28:19-10.--[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 22:54, 3 November 2019 (EST) (this edit was prepared ready to post just before discovering at the same time an edit conflict by the following edits by RobSmith below)

:::::::::::::Here's a good refutation of the 1 Peter 3:21 citation as meaning you need to be baptized to be saved: [https://www.gotquestions.org/baptism-1Peter-3-21.html] --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:47, 3 November 2019 (EST)

:::::::::::::Here's a good refutation of the 1 Peter 3:21 citation as meaning you need to be baptized to be saved: [https://www.gotquestions.org/baptism-1Peter-3-21.html] --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:47, 3 November 2019 (EST)