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::I think there is a lot of unnecessary friction on this page because you don't want to accept this matter.[[User:Wikignome72|Wikignome72]] ([[User talk:Wikignome72|talk]]) 10:53, 4 November 2019 (EST)
::I think there is a lot of unnecessary friction on this page because you don't want to accept this matter.[[User:Wikignome72|Wikignome72]] ([[User talk:Wikignome72|talk]]) 10:53, 4 November 2019 (EST)
:::Amother important concept is that "God is a fair judge" as per Psalm 7:11. Therefore, the unbaptised thief on the cross went to heaven (Jesus told the thief on the cross who repented that "Today you will see me in paradise"). I do think that an obedient Christian with a good attitude will want to get baptised, yet the notion that the thief on the cross did not go to heaven when Jesus clearly said He was going to heaven, is an unreasonable idea.[[User:Wikignome72|Wikignome72]] ([[User talk:Wikignome72|talk]]) 10:59, 4 November 2019 (EST)
:::Amother important concept is that "God is a fair judge" as per Psalm 7:11. Therefore, the unbaptised thief on the cross went to heaven (Jesus told the thief on the cross who repented that "Today you will see me in paradise"). I do think that an obedient Christian with a good attitude will want to get baptised, yet the notion that the thief on the cross did not go to heaven when Jesus clearly said He was going to heaven, is an unreasonable idea.[[User:Wikignome72|Wikignome72]] ([[User talk:Wikignome72|talk]]) 10:59, 4 November 2019 (EST)
==A word on pride==
It is pride, the original sin, that hinders us and keeps us from the doctrine of grace. Pride makes us believe that there must be something that we can do to aid God in obtaining our salvation. Rather than accept the finished work of Christ, our pride does not let us humble ourselves before the cross. We insert exceptions, "yes, Jesus saves, contingent upon (insert exception, such as church teaching, water baptism, etc etc etc)", ''rendering the Word of God to effect through man made church doctrine,'' changing the unfettered doctrine of grace, which requires us to humble ourselves and put away pride, into a doctrine of law and bring us again under subjection to God's wrath. This is that ''other gospel'' Paul warned of, ''which is no gospel at all''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 10:36, 5 November 2019 (EST)