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:::Infant baptism? If infants can be dedicated to being raised in a certain religious order, why shouldn't they be able to be dedicated to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit? [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Friday, 03:13, 8 November 2019 (EST)
 
:::Infant baptism? If infants can be dedicated to being raised in a certain religious order, why shouldn't they be able to be dedicated to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit? [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Friday, 03:13, 8 November 2019 (EST)
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::::He's asking to prove a negative. His entire gospel is, "You better do, or else...", "Unless ye be circumcised....", topped off with a little pride of birthright "We be born not of fornication, we be baptized with water at birth." This of coarse carries no grace or teaches no one of grace toward others, or  shares the mercy of God. It is faithless, claiming the promises of God as a birthright without repentance or faith. Now, he's gonna through words like "faith", repentance", or "grace" back into his doctrine, changing the immutable gospel of grace back into a gospel of works, reigning down the anathema of Paul (Galatians 1:6-9). A person can try to hide from this gospel of works and the anathema of God by saying, "Not me. It is church doctrine", but God holds each one of us to account individually. A murderer can't blame his parents. Your own words, or spirit, condemn you.  
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::::He's asking to prove a negative. His entire gospel is, "You better do, or else...", "Unless ye be circumcised....", topped off with a little pride of birthright "We be born not of fornication, we be baptized with water at birth." This of coarse carries no grace or teaches no one of grace toward others, or  shares the mercy of God. It is faithless, claiming the promises of God as a birthright without repentance or faith. Now, he's gonna throw words like "faith", repentance", or "grace" back into his doctrine, changing the immutable gospel of grace back into a gospel of works, reigning down the anathema of Paul (Galatians 1:6-9). A person can try to hide from this gospel of works and the anathema of God by saying, "Not me. It is church doctrine", but God holds each one of us to account individually. A murderer can't blame his parents. Your own words, or spirit, condemn you.  
    
::::But there is a way out - the gospel of grace. Put away pride (the pride of your imaginary birthright), change (i.e. repentance, IOWs abandon your gospel of works), and join the workers in the field an hour before sunset. Your reward is the same as those who have been working since 7:00 A.M.  Isn't that wonderful!
 
::::But there is a way out - the gospel of grace. Put away pride (the pride of your imaginary birthright), change (i.e. repentance, IOWs abandon your gospel of works), and join the workers in the field an hour before sunset. Your reward is the same as those who have been working since 7:00 A.M.  Isn't that wonderful!
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