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::::Remember, ''My ways are not your ways, and my thoughts are not your thoughts''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 09:49, 8 November 2019 (EST)
 
::::Remember, ''My ways are not your ways, and my thoughts are not your thoughts''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 09:49, 8 November 2019 (EST)
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::::Once a person gets to the place where they are thankful that they ''will not'' be repaid according to their works - this is the meaning of true repentance and finding salvation. Babies, infants, children, and even kids into their teens for the most part don't have a dirty conscience for all the dirty deeds they've done unto others or faithlessness (pride) they have toward God. Speaking as one who grew up under this teaching I can say this - the doctrine of infant baptism is a manifestation of pride. It teaches that one is adopted into God's family as a matter of birthright and that there is no need for faith (''faith cometh by hearing'' - there is no need to hear God's Word), and there is no need for repentance (except under Law, where trespasses then are divided into felony and misdemeanor classes, mortal and venereal sin, etc), and flushes ''the free gift of God'' down the toilet. It is pride - the original sin (Proverbs: ''these 7 things doth the Lord hate'', and #1 on the list is pride). Pride says "I don't need you God, I'll win my own salvation by my own works." [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 10:21, 8 November 2019 (EST)
    
==Discussion 107: Justification of the ungodly means remission of sins: who can be baptized?==
 
==Discussion 107: Justification of the ungodly means remission of sins: who can be baptized?==
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