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::::Humbling yourself before God is the only way to seek repentance from original sin - pride - the sin of Lucifer rejecting God to ''worship and serve the creature'' (himself) which Adam likewise, by free will, decided to follow. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 11:33, 8 November 2019 (EST)
 
::::Humbling yourself before God is the only way to seek repentance from original sin - pride - the sin of Lucifer rejecting God to ''worship and serve the creature'' (himself) which Adam likewise, by free will, decided to follow. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 11:33, 8 November 2019 (EST)
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::::True catholics - those outside the covenants God made with Abraham - ought to understand the spirit of grace and adoption more than anyone. That is what the ''Catholic Epistles of Paul'' teaches. We have no claim by birthright to anything, and we should be thankful that God, by his grace, is willing to share what is his with us.
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::::The problem with the Roman church's tradition is no different than the Jews who rejected Christ - pride in their traditions which caused them to reject the gospel of grace and cling to Law as a means to salvation. Wherefore, ''their carcasses fell in the wilderness''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 12:01, 8 November 2019 (EST)
    
==Discussion 107: Justification of the ungodly means remission of sins: who can be baptized?==
 
==Discussion 107: Justification of the ungodly means remission of sins: who can be baptized?==
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