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Talk:Infant baptism (view source)
Revision as of 06:48, November 19, 2019
, 06:48, November 19, 2019→The issue of "issues"
:::John 3:5 "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." 1 Peter 3:21 "Baptism doth save you now". Titus 3:5-7 "He saved us, not because of deeds done by us in righteousness, but in virtue of his own mercy, by the λουτρού water-washing of regeneration and renewal in the Holy Spirit which he poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that we might be justified by his grace and become heirs in hope of eternal life." <br> --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 00:37, 19 November 2019 (EST)
:::John 3:5 "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." 1 Peter 3:21 "Baptism doth save you now". Titus 3:5-7 "He saved us, not because of deeds done by us in righteousness, but in virtue of his own mercy, by the λουτρού water-washing of regeneration and renewal in the Holy Spirit which he poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that we might be justified by his grace and become heirs in hope of eternal life." <br> --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 00:37, 19 November 2019 (EST)
:::"''For you, my friend, salvation is a real nail-biter - cause you don't know whether or not you are saved.''"—'''True. Even St. Paul did not know with certainty:''' <br> '''Philippians 3:10-16''' (Compare '''John 15:4-6'''.)<br> "'''Therefore let any one who thinks he stands ''take heed lest he fall.'' 1 Corinthians 10:12'''.<br> --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 19:22, 18 November 2019 (EST)
:::"''For you, my friend, salvation is a real nail-biter - cause you don't know whether or not you are saved.''"—'''True. Even St. Paul did not know with certainty:''' <br> '''Philippians 3:10-16''' (Compare '''John 15:4-6'''.)<br> "'''Therefore let any one who thinks he stands ''take heed lest he fall.'' 1 Corinthians 10:12'''.<br> --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 19:22, 18 November 2019 (EST)
==A personal testimony==
I lost my mother at 12. She was a devout Catholic woman. I do not doubt at all that she is in paradise with the Lord despite all her rosaries, vain repetition, praying to saints, etc. My own personal road to salvation was a long road. But I did first hear the Word of God in the Roman Catholic Church. The book of Hebrews is my favorite book - it just sings to me, as does Isaiah. I love reading Hebrews in one sitting, and would recommend it to anybody.
As a young altar boy, I recall hearing in Hebrews that we all are priests. When I asked the priest afterward, why does the Word of God conflict with what I learn in religion class, he just joked and laughed, and never gave a satisfactory answer to my childish faith. I'm not the first catholic to be warned off of God's word. The church has just picked up too much extraneous non-scriptural baggage over two millennia, which isn't really surprising. The same thing is occurring even in many much younger Protestant sects. I guess this is what is meant by regeneration, renewal, and revival, which is a neverending process. But faith in the Word cuts through all the junk, so long as it's spoken, and heard.
Feel free to contact me on my user page if I can ever help in understanding scripture. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 01:48, 19 November 2019 (EST)