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::Psalm 4:23 - ''Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life.
 
::Psalm 4:23 - ''Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life.
 
::Note: no mention of water. ''It is the Spirit that gives life''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 13:50, 18 November 2019 (EST)
 
::Note: no mention of water. ''It is the Spirit that gives life''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 13:50, 18 November 2019 (EST)
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:::John 3:5 "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." 1 Peter 3:21 "Baptism doth save you now". Titus 3:5-7 "He saved us, not because of deeds done by us in righteousness, but in virtue of his own mercy, by the λουτρού water-washing of regeneration and renewal in the Holy Spirit which he poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that we might be justified by his grace and become heirs in hope of eternal life." <br> --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 00:37, 19 November 2019 (EST)
 
:::John 3:5 "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." 1 Peter 3:21 "Baptism doth save you now". Titus 3:5-7 "He saved us, not because of deeds done by us in righteousness, but in virtue of his own mercy, by the λουτρού water-washing of regeneration and renewal in the Holy Spirit which he poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that we might be justified by his grace and become heirs in hope of eternal life." <br> --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 00:37, 19 November 2019 (EST)
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:::"''For you, my friend, salvation is a real nail-biter - cause you don't know whether or not you are saved.''"—'''True. Even St. Paul did not know with certainty:''' <br> '''Philippians 3:10-16''' (Compare '''John 15:4-6'''.)<br> "'''Therefore let any one who thinks he stands ''take heed lest he fall.'' 1 Corinthians 10:12'''.<br> --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 19:22, 18 November 2019 (EST)
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