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:So the passage clearly refers a man, any man, without the spirit of God. He may possess the spirit of Satan, but he himself will still be responsible for this event.
:So the passage clearly refers a man, any man, without the spirit of God. He may possess the spirit of Satan, but he himself will still be responsible for this event.
:Now this lead to a debate, ''Does the beastly flesh possess Satan, or does Satan possess the beastly flesh?.'' In this case, it refers to a man who rejects God, lifts himself up in pride against God, and makes himself God, or the focus and reason for his existence. Again, like Christ, it is a choice. Each of us must choose to serve God or serve something else, usually self. Serving God is a choice. Rejecting God is a choice. Those who reject God to worship and serve themselves (the creature or beast) have the mark of the beast. It is not a future event. It's regular and ongoing, and all 7.4 billion people on planet earth living right now must all make a choice individually. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Live Free or Die]]</sup> 05:10, 22 April 2020 (EDT)
:Now this lead to a debate, ''Does the beastly flesh possess Satan, or does Satan possess the beastly flesh?.'' In this case, it refers to a man who rejects God, lifts himself up in pride against God, and makes himself God, or the focus and reason for his existence. Again, like Christ, it is a choice. Each of us must choose to serve God or serve something else, usually self. Serving God is a choice. Rejecting God is a choice. Those who reject God to worship and serve themselves (the creature or beast) have the mark of the beast. It is not a future event. It's regular and ongoing, and all 7.4 billion people on planet earth living right now must all make a choice individually. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Live Free or Die]]</sup> 05:10, 22 April 2020 (EDT)
:There is no reference to a a "Great Beast" anywhere in the passage - that is something you are reading into the passage that is not there. This beast with the mark of the beast is very common. (By passage I mean the whole chapter. There is no reference to a "Great Beast" anywhere in the chapter.) Go back to verse 18: ''Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man''. Anyone who rejects God is a beast. Rejecting God is choice. Accepting Christ is a choice. Accepting Christ makes you a son of God. Rejecting God makes you a beast. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Live Free or Die]]</sup> 05:33, 22 April 2020 (EDT)