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→Is there really a need for rancorous debate on this subject?
We believe when an adult believes and is baptized, he receives forgiveness of his sins and the gift of regeneration in the spirit. All the Church Fathers taught this, the Nicene Creed teaches, many of the Protestant reformers held to it, and it was universally upheld for more than 1500 years. Do you believe in "once saved, always saved"? We distinguish justification, sanctification and perseverance. Not all the justified persevere in grace until the end. He who perseveres to the end will be saved. When a person is justified, he enters the state of grace. He who dies in grace is saved.
We believe when an adult believes and is baptized, he receives forgiveness of his sins and the gift of regeneration in the spirit. All the Church Fathers taught this, the Nicene Creed teaches, many of the Protestant reformers held to it, and it was universally upheld for more than 1500 years. Do you believe in "once saved, always saved"? We distinguish justification, sanctification and perseverance. Not all the justified persevere in grace until the end. He who perseveres to the end will be saved. When a person is justified, he enters the state of grace. He who dies in grace is saved.
:I understand Roman Catholic doctrine. I was baptized at 10 days. And it doesn't really matter what I believe, some people don't believe in Stop signs, that doesn't change truth or reality. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Live Free or Die]]</sup> 16:48, 7 May 2020 (EDT)