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::::::::It's one thing to cling to a source of interpretation slavishly, but shouldn't we on the other hand put our interpretations in a good light so new believers don't stumble on the way of learning to do what God requires? [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Friday, 23:58, 31 July 2020 (EDT)

::::::::It's one thing to cling to a source of interpretation slavishly, but shouldn't we on the other hand put our interpretations in a good light so new believers don't stumble on the way of learning to do what God requires? [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Friday, 23:58, 31 July 2020 (EDT)

::::::::::The doctrine of purgatory according to RobSmith is not the doctrine of purgatory according to the Catholic Church. <br> What RobSmith has said '''''is''''' the Catholic doctrine of purgatory '''''is not''''' the Catholic doctrine of purgatory. <br>This is evident from the citations of the Bible about purgatory in ''Catechism of the Catholic Church'' and the Catholic interpretation of those scriptures by the authentic Magisterium of the Catholic Church. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 00:03, 1 August 2020 (EDT)

::::::::::The doctrine of purgatory according to RobSmith is not the doctrine of purgatory according to the Catholic Church. <br> What RobSmith has said '''''is''''' the Catholic doctrine of purgatory '''''is not''''' the Catholic doctrine of purgatory. <br>This is evident from the citations of the Bible about purgatory in ''Catechism of the Catholic Church'' and the Catholic interpretation of those scriptures by the authentic Magisterium of the Catholic Church. The ''Catechism of the Catholic Church'' explains this in detail using '''scripture''', beginning at '''[http://scborromeo.org/ccc/p123a12.htm#1029 paragraph 1029]. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]]'''--[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 00:03, 1 August 2020 (EDT)

:::::::::::DC: Nobody cares, not even the sinners in Purgatory, of which there are none.

:::::::::::DC: Nobody cares, not even the sinners in Purgatory, of which there are none.

:::::::::::VM: That's right. The Debate is straying all over the map. I think it's time to wind this one down and start a new one on another topic. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]} 00:23, 1 August 2020 (EDT)

:::::::::::VM: That's right. The Debate is straying all over the map. I think it's time to wind this one down and start a new one on another topic. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]} 00:23, 1 August 2020 (EDT)

:::::::::VargasMilan, God bless you! Every seeker of truth who has the Bible can read for themselves what it says plainly, simply, clearly about the authority of the Church. That's why so many citations of the scriptures have been posted here about purgatory and the authority of the Church to clarify the true meaning of scripture and to teach the truth forever. It's just as Jesus said: "'''Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or ''whether'' I speak of myself.'''" John 7:16-17. It's the same with the Church. Those who truly will to do God's will will '''''know''''' if the doctrine of the Church Jesus founded on a rock, against which the gates of hell shall not prevail, is true. I suppose there will always be someone who will not hear what the Spirit says to the churches and neglect to hear the church. To this Jesus said, "He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still." Let those that are blind leaders of the blind go their way and fall into a ditch. We must not weary of speaking the truth of God. We will all give account of ourselves to God. (Romans 14:1–15:6). ''Pax vobis'' Semper fidelis --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 00:24, 1 August 2020 (EDT)

:::::::::VargasMilan, God bless you! Every seeker of truth who has the Bible can read for themselves what it says plainly, simply, clearly about the authority of the Church. That's why so many citations of the scriptures have been posted here about purgatory and the authority of the Church to clarify the true meaning of scripture and to teach the truth forever. It's just as Jesus said: "'''Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or ''whether'' I speak of myself.'''" John 7:16-17. It's the same with the Church. Those who truly will to do God's will will '''''know''''' if the doctrine of the Church Jesus founded on a rock, against which the gates of hell shall not prevail, is true. I suppose there will always be someone who will not hear what the Spirit says to the churches and neglect to hear the church. To this Jesus said, "He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still." Let those that are blind leaders of the blind go their way and fall into a ditch. We must not weary of speaking the truth of God. We will all give account of ourselves to God. (Romans 14:1–15:6). ''Pax vobis'' Semper fidelis --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 00:24, 1 August 2020 (EDT)

::::::::Too bad the doctrine of the Roman church is not the doctrine of him who sent Jesus. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]} 00:36, 1 August 2020 (EDT)

::::::::Too bad the doctrine of the Roman church is not the doctrine of him who sent Jesus. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]} 00:36, 1 August 2020 (EDT)

===Exhibit D: Picture of purgatory===

===Exhibit D: Picture of purgatory===