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Debate: Is there a Purgatory before Judgment Day (view source)
Revision as of 19:34, August 1, 2020
, 19:34, August 1, 2020→Exhibit D: Picture of purgatory
[[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Saturday, 03:08, 1 August 2020 (EDT)
[[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Saturday, 03:08, 1 August 2020 (EDT)
:I've made half hearted attempts to read Dante in the past without much success. So I'm dependent on what commentators have said. Coming from a Catholic background I can say many Catholics think that there is some connection between ''Purgatorio'' and official Catholic doctrine, but there really is not. Using Protestant idioms, ''Purgatorio'' represents that phase in a Christian walk between being "babes in Christ" or a "carnal Christian", where a certain purging of old habits and sin occurs before receiving the Holy Spirit (see "twinkling of an eye", above.)
First comes sincere repentance, then the "babes in Christ" and "carnal Christian" phase. This occurs here in the flesh on this earth. And Dante is speaking in spiritual terms. This is what Dante means by ''Purgatorio''. Eventually some, not all, receive the anointing of the Holy Spirit and move on to ''Paradiso''.
:Excerpt:
:*"I am Omberto: not me, only, pride Hath injured [pride, what Augustine calls original sin and Paul says "while we were yet in sin"], but my kindred all involved In mischief with her. Here my lot ordains Under this weight to groan, till I appease God's angry justice [repentence, not a stretch in the joint in the after life], since I did it not Amongst the living [being born again], here amongst the dead ["while we were yet dead in sin"]."....
:*Here, of such pride, the forfeiture is paid. Nor were I even here, if, able still To sin [sinning willfully, not by habit], I had not turn'd me unto God.
:Again, coming from a Catholic background, most Protestants do not recognize that Dante is more of pre-Reformation preacher of the Gospel than a doctrinal advocate of what 200 years later became "the Roman Catholic Church". This represents more of the cultural divide between Northern Europe and the Latin world. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 15:34, 1 August 2020 (EDT)
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