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::I do remember Posner's talk. Cultures tend to change slow unless forced to change. The USA occupied Japan and Germany after the war. The USA did not want to occupy Russia and Russia did not want to be occupied. So I have my doubts that the Russian culture would have changed rapidly towards democracy on their own. Religion has a big effect on culture. The Eastern Orthodox Church is a very top down organization. Italy was greatly affected by the corrupt Vatican and they have gone from one corrupt government to another in rapid succession. Governments in Italy are like the soup de jour (I am exaggerating).[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 02:08, July 6, 2022 (EDT)
::I do remember Posner's talk. Cultures tend to change slow unless forced to change. The USA occupied Japan and Germany after the war. The USA did not want to occupy Russia and Russia did not want to be occupied. So I have my doubts that the Russian culture would have changed rapidly towards democracy on their own. Religion has a big effect on culture. The Eastern Orthodox Church is a very top down organization. Italy was greatly affected by the corrupt Vatican and they have gone from one corrupt government to another in rapid succession. Governments in Italy are like the soup de jour (I am exaggerating).[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 02:08, July 6, 2022 (EDT)
:::Yes, Ukraine does fall on a cultural/civilizational faultline. That is why it has Russian separatists in Eastern Ukraine. If Russia keeps Eastern Ukraine, perhaps there will be less tremors. It is unfortunate that much of Eastern Ukraine is rubble. If I am not mistaken, John Mearsheimer predicted that Russia would wreck Ukraine if there was a threat of Ukraine joining NATO. And to a certain extent, a decent size chunk of Ukraine has been wrecked. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 02:14, July 6, 2022 (EDT)