| Line 1,197: |
Line 1,197: |
| | ::[https://youtu.be/8fwgVUfW_O4 A walk down memory lane]. ''The people have spoken'' [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 11:01, July 2, 2023 (EDT) | | ::[https://youtu.be/8fwgVUfW_O4 A walk down memory lane]. ''The people have spoken'' [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 11:01, July 2, 2023 (EDT) |
| | :::In July 2020, Trump signed a law to impose sanctions if China acted against Hong Kong. It was certainly a big deal in Hong Kong. For a few months, it seemed like the crisis was over. From December 2020 to February 2022, the city was under covid lockdown. In May 2021, Hong Kong was caught by surprise when Beijing announced that it would impose a national security law after all. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 11:56, July 2, 2023 (EDT) | | :::In July 2020, Trump signed a law to impose sanctions if China acted against Hong Kong. It was certainly a big deal in Hong Kong. For a few months, it seemed like the crisis was over. From December 2020 to February 2022, the city was under covid lockdown. In May 2021, Hong Kong was caught by surprise when Beijing announced that it would impose a national security law after all. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 11:56, July 2, 2023 (EDT) |
| − | ::::(a) sanctions don't work, that is one of the lessons of WWII; (b) acting big and tuff (''"I'm going to huff, and puff, and blooooww your house down"'') fails when push comes to shove, and the world sees what a whimp you are. That happened in Hong Kong, and it happened when the US didn't send manpower and blood as it promised to enforce the [[Budapest Security Memorandum]]. We've gone from "speak softly and carry a big stick" {likie Russia and China do) to "Make threats like a windbag and carry a useless Javelin missile". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:33, July 2, 2023 (EDT) | + | ::::(a) sanctions don't work, that is one of the lessons of WWII; (b) acting big and tuff (''"I'm going to huff, and puff, and blooooww your house down"'') fails when push comes to shove, and the world sees what a wimp you are. That happened in Hong Kong, and it happened when the US didn't send manpower and blood as it promised to enforce the [[Budapest Security Memorandum]]. We've gone from "speak softly and carry a big stick" {like Russia and China do) to "Make threats like a windbag and carry a useless Javelin missile". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:33, July 2, 2023 (EDT) |
| | ::::It's comic tragedy when you hear stuff like "Strategic Ambiguity" when you might as well say "We're only bluffing". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:42, July 2, 2023 (EDT) | | ::::It's comic tragedy when you hear stuff like "Strategic Ambiguity" when you might as well say "We're only bluffing". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:42, July 2, 2023 (EDT) |
| | ::::All this talk of invasion is a joke, when the CCP learned from the US to do a [[Maidan coup|Maidan-style coup]] in Taiwan. What? Are US policymakers and the American public that racist that they really believe the Chinese are too stupid to figure that much out? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:47, July 2, 2023 (EDT) | | ::::All this talk of invasion is a joke, when the CCP learned from the US to do a [[Maidan coup|Maidan-style coup]] in Taiwan. What? Are US policymakers and the American public that racist that they really believe the Chinese are too stupid to figure that much out? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:47, July 2, 2023 (EDT) |
| | + | :::::The story of Hong Kong suggests that the Chinese backed off several times for fear of economic consequences and sanctions. I don't think Xi had a plan to take over Hong Kong over the course of ten years. He was thinking that resistance would collapse as soon as he laid down a hard line. Money problems forced Putin to disband the Wagner Group, so sanctions can by given credit for that as well. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 22:48, July 2, 2023 (EDT) |