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::::All this talk of invasion is a joke, when the CCP learned from the US to do a [[Maidan coup|Maidan-style coup]] in Taiwan. What? Are US policymakers and the American public that racist that they really believe the Chinese are too stupid to figure that much out? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:47, July 2, 2023 (EDT)
 
::::All this talk of invasion is a joke, when the CCP learned from the US to do a [[Maidan coup|Maidan-style coup]] in Taiwan. What? Are US policymakers and the American public that racist that they really believe the Chinese are too stupid to figure that much out? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:47, July 2, 2023 (EDT)
 
:::::The story of Hong Kong suggests that the Chinese backed off several times for fear of economic consequences and sanctions. I don't think Xi had a plan to take over Hong Kong over the course of ten years. He was thinking that resistance would collapse as soon as he laid down a hard line. Money problems forced Putin to disband the Wagner Group, so sanctions can by given credit for that as well. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 22:48, July 2, 2023 (EDT)
 
:::::The story of Hong Kong suggests that the Chinese backed off several times for fear of economic consequences and sanctions. I don't think Xi had a plan to take over Hong Kong over the course of ten years. He was thinking that resistance would collapse as soon as he laid down a hard line. Money problems forced Putin to disband the Wagner Group, so sanctions can by given credit for that as well. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 22:48, July 2, 2023 (EDT)
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::::::In the case of the Wagner group, Russian law prohibits PMCs (private military companies) from operating on Russian territory. (Believe it or not, Russia is a nation of laws).  So with the annexation of the [[Donbas]], it became a problem. Wagner group will continue operating in Belarus and Africa eventually under a different name.
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::::::Above you stated it was an open secret China would take control. They simply measured the risks and costs against what was to be gained, knowing the US and UK were too weak to do anything about it, and seized the opportunity. And it was done by CCP infiltration into the Hong Kong government. The same things happening in Taiwan through the [[Kuomintang]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 23:15, July 2, 2023 (EDT)
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