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::::I'm not sure what your question is, there is video of Zelensky meeting with the Azov on the front lines. [https://youtu.be/rgkPpsyUFcM Zelensky angrily responding after being rebuked by his own Azov forces.] (2:08) [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 03:15, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

:::::Can't or won't answer it? It's a simple question. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 03:18, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::Classic RobSmith move: confronted with a problematic question, dodges to a different point; repeat ad infinitum. He's been doing this for the past two years. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Sunday, 10:05, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

::::Don't get snippy. Read it all yourself. [https://thegrayzone.com/2023/08/16/zelensky-ukraines-notorious-neo-nazi/ Zelensky holds court with Ukraine’s most notorious neo-Nazi], August 16, 2023. Zelensky has been careful not be photographed with Nazis - until a few weeks ago now that Ukraine is flat on its back, and they are the most fanatical fighters. He met with them to give them recognition.

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::::These guys (Zelensky and the Nazis) hate Russia and the Russians. It's a long history. The only good thing about Russia is, it's a little less corrupt than Ukraine. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 03:27, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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~~{{warning collapse|reason=trolling, personal remarks|content=~~:::::And you're a LIAR as well as a FRAUD. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 04:14, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::And you're a LIAR as well as a FRAUD. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 04:14, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::Absolutely agreed. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Sunday, 09:52, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Well, here's the problem. You are the problem. You pushed lies on this website, and lies based upon your various outlooks on life, which apparently is restricted. For example, your complete and utter lie on the death of James Forrestal, which you posted on another page a few hours ago. Murder by the DOD? How about a story about a stupid moron sitting in mom's basement being sued by the family of Forrestal for defamation?

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And during the past two years I've seen you bully, harass, denigrate, and trample others because they don't follow the rules - YOUR RULES - that you push on them. You bitch and you whine about the faults of others, but in reality it is your faults, in keeping with your own severe case of narcissism. So, here's the deal. I'm back, and I will be in your face constantly, and the world will see what kind of a fraud you actually are. You are the one who needs to be reined in and consoled on the proper duties of an admin here.

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Your games are over and done with. You want to cry me a river, just tell me where and when and I'll show up with a camera. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 05:14, October 1, 2023 (EDT)}}

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Your games are over and done with. You want to cry me a river, just tell me where and when and I'll show up with a camera. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 05:14, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

:::<big>'''Zelensky being a Nazi sympathizer has already been added to [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia_proven_right&diff=1987401&oldid=1983087 Conservapedia proven correct]. If you have problem with that, take it up it Andy.'''</big> [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 05:11, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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:Hold up, RobSmith's assertions about Forrestal are incorrect? —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Sunday, 09:51, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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===Socialist movements and antisemitism: a brief review of the history===

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Hi Karajou, I see you're skeptical of the notion of that Ukraine is overrun with Nazis from the top-down because it's leader happens to be a Jew. Since the question here is whether Zelensky's government can be designated as "National ''Socialist''," I believe it's useful to evaluate the history surrounding socialism and the Jews.

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So first of all, Marxism was antisemitic to its core—religiously and economically motivated. ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZh01xRO_Qg&pp=ygUWa2FybCBtYXJ4IGFudGlzZW1pdGlzbQ%3D%3D this video] sums it up well) Of course, since it was attacking the Jews on basis of religion and economics, rather than "race," ethnic Jews who were "self-hating" and converted from Judaism to Marxism were acceptable, however. That is precisely why there were [https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/american-jews-idealize-soviet-communism atheist Jews] who became Communists—already disenchanted with Judaism, they were happy to serve the false god Baal- er, I mean, Marx. The Soviet Union's antisemitism was manifested in persecution against religious Jews, prohibiting ritual circumcision. (for more information, see: [[Antisemitism, atheistic Communism, and penile cancer]])

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Nazism is an outgrowth strain of Marxism. (see: [[Communist origins of Nazism]]) Hitler and his chauffeur Schreck were members of the Communist Bavarian Soviet Republic in the 1910s, and the fuhrer himself admitted that the only difference between Marxism and Nazism was economics vs. race; [https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler#1926 his own words]: "If the National Socialist Movement should fail to understand the fundamental importance of this essential principle [race], if it should merely varnish the external appearance of the present State and adopt the majority principle, it would really do nothing more than compete with Marxism on its own ground." (Mein Kampf, vol. 2, ch. 4)

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Marxist antisemitism = religious and economic hatred of Judaism; Nazi antisemitism = ethnic hatred of Jews, period. But again, to socialists, a Jew who converts from Judaism to socialism can be deemed acceptable. Even in the case of the Nazis, Jews who apostatized to openly supporting Nazi ideology were sometimes spared, just as atheistic Communist Jews were spared from Soviet pogroms; [https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/ellen-feldman-nazi-germany this article] by ''Tablet'' sums it up well. And ''even as it concerns neo-Nazis too'', yes, [https://allthatsinteresting.com/daniel-burros some turned out to be ethnic Jews].

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And to get to the point about Zelensky: does him being an ethnic Jew automatically prove his government isn't Nazi-ridden? From a nuanced historical perspective, no. At the end of the day, [https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/zelenskyy-is-not-a-jewish-hero/ he is not a Jewish hero]. The evidence of his open collaboration with the far-left, Nazi-aligned paramilitary group [[Azov Battalion]] is overwhelming and widely easy to find on the internet. And no, I don't support Putin by any means. I oppose both sides of the war, and see it as a Hegelian deception game to pave the way for a greater, final menace facing humanity soon. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Sunday, 09:50, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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