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==Killing etc.==
 
BTW, David like [[Moses]] also killed per God's will (Deuteronomy 1:4), David's title is King (I Kings 1:1) and Moses' is "servant of the Lord" (Deuteronomy 34:5) [[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 11:43, September 28, 2025 (EDT)
 
BTW, David like [[Moses]] also killed per God's will (Deuteronomy 1:4), David's title is King (I Kings 1:1) and Moses' is "servant of the Lord" (Deuteronomy 34:5) [[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 11:43, September 28, 2025 (EDT)
 
:That's sounds like [[Islam]], killing as a favor to God. In the [[Christian]] interpretation, it shows there is no sin (except one) that is beyond forgiveness - provided we are willing to [[repent]] (change). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 11:59, September 28, 2025 (EDT)
 
:That's sounds like [[Islam]], killing as a favor to God. In the [[Christian]] interpretation, it shows there is no sin (except one) that is beyond forgiveness - provided we are willing to [[repent]] (change). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 11:59, September 28, 2025 (EDT)
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:::That's where he tossed out the "sins of the father visiting the children" clause. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 12:50, September 28, 2025 (EDT)
 
:::That's where he tossed out the "sins of the father visiting the children" clause. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 12:50, September 28, 2025 (EDT)
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<font size=4>You mean it sounds like the crusades?</size>
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'''We have to differentiate Biblical times where events were coordinated with God and post Bible.'''
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1. '''Kosher'''
 
1. '''Kosher'''
 
Moses killing the Egyptian was not seen as negative in the eyes of God, it was to save a brethren. .
 
Moses killing the Egyptian was not seen as negative in the eyes of God, it was to save a brethren. .
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David fought, what is called, wars for God, he did per His will, yet, God doesn't want the Temple be build by anyone with blood on his hands, even as it was just.  
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David fought, what is called, wars for God, he did per His will, yet, God doesn't want the Temple be build by anyone with blood on his hands, even as it was just. <br>
 
2. '''Sanctity of life'''.
 
2. '''Sanctity of life'''.
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There is for instance, a [[Talmud]]ic concept of a court that had condemned a person to death though just once in 7 years or per another opinion once in 70 years - it is labeled the 'destructive' court. Even though they were right, they have that "stain." It is also to encourage to deliberate over the top / to look for arguments for the defendant. 3. One of the reasons Haredim (ultra-orthodox Jews), overwhelmingly,  refuse to serve in the army, is based on the concept that killing can change something in the soul, though it's for the right reasons (Israelis are convinced they are fighting to <u>survive</u> against a Goliath).
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There is for instance, a [[Talmud]]ic concept of a court that had condemned a person to death though just once in 7 years or per another opinion once in 70 years - it is labeled the 'destructive' court. Even though they were right, they have that "stain." It is also to encourage to deliberate over the top / to look for arguments for the defendant.<br> 3. One of the reasons Haredim (ultra-orthodox Jews), overwhelmingly,  refuse to serve in the army, is based on the concept that killing can change something in the soul, though it's for the right reasons (Israelis are convinced they are fighting to <u>survive</u> against a Goliath).<br>
 
'''Note''':
 
'''Note''':
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In general, there are a world of differences between ancient cultures and today's. For instance,  Amalek,  today, refers to a concept,  not a specific ethnic group. [[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 14:02, September 28, 2025 (EDT)
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In general, there are a world of differences between ancient cultures and today's. For instance,  Amalek,  today, refers to a concept,  not a specific ethnic group. [[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 14:08, September 28, 2025 (EDT)
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