| | ...I think - you read somewhere that there is no evidence that no one ship ever completed all three sides of the triangle, and therefore you think that the triangle never existed - or something to that effect. But the triangle as a model still holds true even in the light of that understanding - material goods to Africa's west coast; slaves to the New World; cotton, sugar, timber etc. back to Europe. Even if different ships are taking cars of different parts of that network, the network itself still existed. If the Europeans could not use goods from the Americas to trade for slaves in Africa, the system collapses. If the Africans could not provide the slave labor that produced the cheap cotton that was an important part of the manufactured goods being traded with Africa, the system falls apart. And if the European economy was not being driven by resources created by slave labor in the New World, the system would fall apart. Likewise, without cheap food - especially salted cod - brought down from North America to feed the slaves in the Caribbean, the system would have fallen apart. [[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 12:49, 2 September 2008 (EDT) | | ...I think - you read somewhere that there is no evidence that no one ship ever completed all three sides of the triangle, and therefore you think that the triangle never existed - or something to that effect. But the triangle as a model still holds true even in the light of that understanding - material goods to Africa's west coast; slaves to the New World; cotton, sugar, timber etc. back to Europe. Even if different ships are taking cars of different parts of that network, the network itself still existed. If the Europeans could not use goods from the Americas to trade for slaves in Africa, the system collapses. If the Africans could not provide the slave labor that produced the cheap cotton that was an important part of the manufactured goods being traded with Africa, the system falls apart. And if the European economy was not being driven by resources created by slave labor in the New World, the system would fall apart. Likewise, without cheap food - especially salted cod - brought down from North America to feed the slaves in the Caribbean, the system would have fallen apart. [[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 12:49, 2 September 2008 (EDT) |
| | + | ::::I think the "no ship" evidence was from a review of New England records, ie American orginating ships. So, for complete quesswork: could it not be that Europeans took goods to Africa to trade for slaves and then slaves to America to trade for raw materials (Triangular). Once America had developed enough to produce its own finished goods slavers from America could increase profit by cutting out the middle man (Europe) and deal direct. --[[User:Toffeeman|Toffeeman]] 13:14, 2 September 2008 (EDT) |