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Conservapedia:Desk/Abuse (view source)
Revision as of 12:08, December 17, 2008
, 12:08, December 17, 2008→TK
:::*AlanS, are you always prone to hysterical ranting? Ed Poor didn't use a block (My word, one day!) to win an argument. He wasn't arguing, BRichtigen was, over a very short block, and according to our Guidelines, Ed Poor was completely within his rights in the blocking. The CP Desk was created by Geo. He and I discussed it before he did, and it was discussed among the most senior of sysops before it went up. So I guess I would know better than 99% of the people here what it is for. It is a place where ''actual abuse'' could be reported, not a place for "me-tooism" or piling on, or endless rants against "the man". I don't have a problem with complaints, succinctly stated, without hyperbole and just plain hysterics. But when others randomly decide to enter into things mindlessly, that never concerned or effected them, like Corry, and now you, it does bother me. Look at Corry's contributions. If ever someone was here only to argue and talk, talk, talk, it is him. There isn't some giant conspiracy against you, Corry or anyone else. Contribute actual content where you can, where your complicated ideology will allow you to, and argue less. You undoubtedly will be surprised as to how much more respect you will have, and how much closer people will listen to you! --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]<sup>[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk!]]</sup> 17:37, 16 December 2008 (EST)
:::*AlanS, are you always prone to hysterical ranting? Ed Poor didn't use a block (My word, one day!) to win an argument. He wasn't arguing, BRichtigen was, over a very short block, and according to our Guidelines, Ed Poor was completely within his rights in the blocking. The CP Desk was created by Geo. He and I discussed it before he did, and it was discussed among the most senior of sysops before it went up. So I guess I would know better than 99% of the people here what it is for. It is a place where ''actual abuse'' could be reported, not a place for "me-tooism" or piling on, or endless rants against "the man". I don't have a problem with complaints, succinctly stated, without hyperbole and just plain hysterics. But when others randomly decide to enter into things mindlessly, that never concerned or effected them, like Corry, and now you, it does bother me. Look at Corry's contributions. If ever someone was here only to argue and talk, talk, talk, it is him. There isn't some giant conspiracy against you, Corry or anyone else. Contribute actual content where you can, where your complicated ideology will allow you to, and argue less. You undoubtedly will be surprised as to how much more respect you will have, and how much closer people will listen to you! --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]<sup>[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk!]]</sup> 17:37, 16 December 2008 (EST)
==TK==
*What's a desk/abuse section good for if only a few administrators know to use it correctly? If I feel that anyone is wronged, where else should I express my concerns?
*TK's block against me stated as reason; ''TerryH & Ed Poor were right, reflect on constant arguing and being a distraction. You have been blocked 6 times by 3 admins in Dec, now 7/4''.
:*In December, I was blocked by Bugler, Foxtrot, Ed Poor, TerryH and now, TK
:*Ed Poor and TerryH are administrators. The block by TerryH was a guard dog-induced misunderstanding, he apologized on my home page. So at least, TK wasn't thorough in his calculation. If it is a try to seek comfort in numbers, then for comparison:
:* In December, I was unblocked by the administrators Philip J. Rayment, TerryH, RSchlafly and Aschlafly
*I expect TK to lift the six months range-block of my ISP (block #45830, 81.210.132.0/24), as the stated blockreason: ''IP of blocked user'' is no longer valid. And, pray, why was the block of my home IP address twelve times as long as the intended block of my edit account?
*For the block of Corry you gave the reason "Violated 90/10 rule against talk, talk, talk: and continued argument over things that do not concern him". This very reason shows that a discussion of 90/10 is a ''thing'' that does concern Corry. And ''MYOB'' is not a good policy on a wiki, see - for instance - [http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Desk/Abuse/Archive2#Bugler.2C_and_Everyone_Else_Who_Ignores this discussion].
*generally, I'd regard it as bad style to block someone (Corry, AlanS) for entries at the Desk/Abuse section, unless they were vulgar.
*Your first contribution to this debate was a lengthy quote. My problem with this special metaphor: There are many possible interpretations. Let me add one ''If the man in the arena start to make to many mistakes, he is eaten by the lions or worse: the public will stay away''. If you want to have good contributions to this site, you have to care for a pleasant working environment. That is especially important as all the ''workers'' here are volunteers. A main point in such an environment is the fair treatment of all serious contributors.
*''I don't have a problem with complaints, succinctly stated, without hyperbole and just plain hysterics. But when others randomly decide to enter into things mindlessly, that never concerned or effected them, like Corry, and now you, it does bother me. '' IMO, it is important to speak out for other editors. That isn't to ''enter into things mindlessly''. '''You''' entered this discussion -seemingly - on behalf of Ed Poor, why shouldn't other join my side?
*to post this comment, I had to use a proxy, as my ISP at home is blocked (see above). I hope this will not be counted against me.
:[[User:BRichtigen|BRichtigen]] 07:08, 17 December 2008 (EST)