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Talk:Scientific controversy over the cause of AIDS (view source)
Revision as of 20:46, January 8, 2009
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I really liked the “What really causes AIDS” link due to some claims that science can actually test. I would like to address each item listed on the website however I am unsure how to proceed on the article page as far as addressing it point by point. Also, the science presented would be a bit involved for the layman. However, I believe it would be a great chance to explain the misunderstanding of Mohammed Ali Al-Bayati.--[[User:Able806|Able806]] 16:43, 7 January 2009 (EST)
I really liked the “What really causes AIDS” link due to some claims that science can actually test. I would like to address each item listed on the website however I am unsure how to proceed on the article page as far as addressing it point by point. Also, the science presented would be a bit involved for the layman. However, I believe it would be a great chance to explain the misunderstanding of Mohammed Ali Al-Bayati.--[[User:Able806|Able806]] 16:43, 7 January 2009 (EST)
*Maybe address the AIDS-like disease Idiopathic CD4+ lymphocytopenia that has no trace of HIV (rare or not, it is a real counterexample to AIDS, which is merely a set of symptons, caused by an HIV virus). Also maybe this is tangential to the page, but is there a classification for those people who have been found to be immune to AIDS because of their genetics? --[[User:RickD|RickD]] 17:13, 7 January 2009 (EST)
*Maybe address the AIDS-like disease Idiopathic CD4+ lymphocytopenia that has no trace of HIV (rare or not, it is a real counterexample to AIDS, which is merely a set of symptons, caused by an HIV virus). Also maybe this is tangential to the page, but is there a classification for those people who have been found to be immune to AIDS because of their genetics? --[[User:RickD|RickD]] 17:13, 7 January 2009 (EST)
:::To answer RickD's question, ICL is a real syndrom without any known causes at this time. It does have the same symptoms of AIDS, however it is also know to reverse itself (prognosis is good), which HIV/AIDS does not. To answer the HIV immunity, it really is not an immunity as much as it is a higher resistance to infection. The mutation in these people actualy retards the HIV from attaching to the receptors on the cell. It is not 100%, but it does offer a great amount of resistance.--[[User:Able806|Able806]] 15:46, 8 January 2009 (EST)
::It's probably more important to debunk (or at least summarize) the work of [[Peter Duesberg]], the scientist who isolated the first [[cancer gene]] and mapped the genetic structure of [[retrovirus]]es. [http://www.duesberg.com/index.html] --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 17:17, 7 January 2009 (EST)
::It's probably more important to debunk (or at least summarize) the work of [[Peter Duesberg]], the scientist who isolated the first [[cancer gene]] and mapped the genetic structure of [[retrovirus]]es. [http://www.duesberg.com/index.html] --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 17:17, 7 January 2009 (EST)