Talk:Cuba

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Wow! Someone let a lefty section of this article slip past the censors. Hooray for free speech!

I haven't taken geography since sixth grade, but I don't think Cuba is in the Gulf. Could be wrong though. GodlessLiberal 21:58, 30 April 2007 (EDT)
You are correct, I fixed it. --Colest 22:06, 30 April 2007 (EDT)
technically, cuba is not a "communist country". it is a socialist country.--Iconoclastbeggar 19:59, 7 January 2008 (EST)
Technically, you are in fact wrong. The Republic of Cuba is ruled governed by the Communist Party of Cuba; also, as any fule no, within the communist "naming system", for want of a better word (it's late here) "Communist state" is never used to name a state: a state, in their ideology, is either in a "capitalist" or "socialist" state, not a "communist state", which is by their definition a contradiction in terms. 10px Fox (talk|contribs) 20:03, 7 January 2008 (EST)
sooo, didn't you just prove my point?--Iconoclastbeggar 20:42, 29 January 2008 (EST)
There have been many countries that have declared themselves communist but I think none of them are actually communist; they're dictatorships that use communism as an excuse to do whatever they want. You might notice that communist countries are easily controlled by the government than non-communist ones, so communist is the perfect excuse for dictators. In South America, we see the opposite. Having been told by the U.S. of the evils of communism, South American dictators use Anti-communism as an excuse to hold power. They accuse any opposing party of being communist and then they jail them. -Sundance

Sundance that last sentence is quite dated; now it is fashionable to claim to be "socialist," that allows "nationalization" and looting of private industry, e.g. Hugo Chavez, and Evo Morales. El Jigue 6-10-08

Thank you for your kind welcome. Will pay attention to rules but I am somewhat clumsy and often need to correct myself. El Jigue 6-7-08

People often claim Castro is dead when he's not. Conservapedia is not a rumor mill - we will report his death when it is actually documented. DanH 03:50, 10 June 2008 (EDT) One must also keep in mind that Fidel Castro's health is an official state secret.Jigue

6-10-08

Then that's all the more reason not to claim he's dead if no one knows for sure. DanH 20:47, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

Sysop ruling: The term "communist country" means a country ruled by a Communist Party (or a Marxist-led "Workers Party"). No one ever gets this confused with the theoretical ideal stage of society proposed by Marx, wherein the socialist dictatorship "withers away"; see Communism (ideal). --Ed Poor Talk 18:01, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

Health Care

Why was my sourced and entirely reasonable edit to the Health Care section removed? While this site may not 'approve' of Cuba, it's not 'encyclopedia like' to suppress factual information about it, and the information provided was sourced and accurate. It was certainly a more detailed explanation of how Health Care is actually run in Cuba than the current state to which it was reverted. Wonders 13:18, 8 September 2012 (EDT)

Perhaps calling Cuba's system "excellent" is a bit too subjective. Also, it appears you misused the {{cite web}} template. But other than that, the facts you presented were relevant and your Irish Times source appears to be credible and written by someone with first-hand knowledge of the Cuban health care system. I think the burden is on User:Karajou to defend his reversion. Maybe contact him on his Talk page if he doesn't respond here. --Randall7 13:58, 8 September 2012 (EDT)
I agree that was too subjective, and I also admit I don't know how to use the template. But the article currently uses the weasel words "many believe the services provided are alarmingly inferior" without providing any citation for these "many" - one grumble from a failed Presidential Primary candidate does not "many" make, and I cannot find any citation for Hilda Morina's statement, neither in the Conservapedia article nor on the web, nor that she even was in the Cuban Health business. Wonders 14:35, 8 September 2012 (EDT)

John Stockwell?

Hi.

I was wondering. How do we handle this video with John Stockwell? The reason I'm asking is because I'm noticing a lot of people citing him as some sort of authority that "proves" that we American conservatives are somehow lying about Cuba (even when Che Guevara and Castro, not to mention Ion Mihai Pacepa himself made it very clear that those "lies" were in fact the truth.). Pokeria1 (talk) 22:58, 7 May 2021 (EDT)

I don't understand the point. Are you looking for conservatives to say something good about the CIA? Stockwell looks like another Philip Agee type, selling American secrets for personal profit. Big deal. So he explains how the CIA manipulates journalists and media to influence public opinion in the 1970s. Today we call that a paranoid conspiracy theorist. RobSFree Kyle! 02:29, 8 May 2021 (EDT)
I'm specifically trying to find a way to refute claims like what this jerk is claiming here, here, and here. Pokeria1 (talk) 05:37, 8 May 2021 (EDT)
Simple. Call him a communist infiltrator and agitator. John Brennan and Agee weren't the first communist scum to infiltrate the CIA. RobSFree Kyle! 07:42, 8 May 2021 (EDT)