Talk:Homosexuality in Nazi Germany

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Ed, many of your references for this new series of articles trace back to "The Pink Swastika". How reliable is this source? From what little I read, I found a claim that one Nazi raped 100 boys per day, which seems to me physically impossible. HelpJazz 14:16, 13 November 2008 (EST)

Like Bert S., I have a lot of information on usually hidden subjects. Due to the PG rating of this website, I hesitate to explain in public how one rapist can sodomize 100 boys in one day. But your incredulity on this matter is not an stumbling block, is it? --Ed Poor Talk 17:31, 13 November 2008 (EST)
It can be. HelpJazz 18:05, 13 November 2008 (EST)
I tried looking for information that links this "National Socialist League" in America to homosexuality and can't find anything. In fact the only thing I can see at all about this group is that is was a pre-WW2 nazi group in England, long defunct. What's your problem anyway? Do you even know any gay people? BAman 14:20, 13 November 2008 (EST)
I have been acquainted with many. They are a sorry lot, and I pity them. (Please note that pity is not hate; I shouldn't have to tell you that, but it seems I must lest you misunderstand.)
Homosexuals have a hard time receiving love. And their perverse sexual practices draw them further away from love into a dark world of depravity. They make it hard to be friends.
Aside to HelpJazz:
  • "Go on then!" said Frodo. "What do you know?"
  • "Too much; too many dark things," said Strider grimly.
I try to use my knowledge to help people, but it is difficult. Mere knowledge alone is insufficient, and I'm probably wasting much of my time on the Internet hoping to share enlightenment via words. -Ed Poor Talk 08:26, 14 November 2008 (EST)
Please, avoid this kind of defeatist words! Either you believe in this project and its purpose, in which case "probably wasting much time on the Internet" is nonsense, or leave. --OdiEtAmo 08:34, 14 November 2008 (EST)
Thanks for the pep talk, rookie! --Ed Poor Talk 08:35, 14 November 2008 (EST)
I'm not entirely sure what that means, but back to the source itself: if you check out gay violence you will see )(referenced) evidence that maybe we shouldn't be basing so many articles on "The Pink Swastika". What do we know about this book? HelpJazz 21:23, 14 November 2008 (EST)

May I ask what the connection is between modern American Nazi parties and Nazi Germany? Certainly the latter inspires and informs the former, but it seems to me that if the article is about "Homosexuality in Nazi Germany", then modern homosexual uniform fetishes are a peripheral point at best.

Besides, there's plenty of relevant stuff to talk about. What about Ernst Röhm and the SA for instance?

CrunchyFrog 14:34, 13 November 2008 (EST)

Add it, and expand the article, then. --Ed Poor Talk 08:27, 14 November 2008 (EST)

merging the two articles[edit]

Hey Ed, I was wondering if you can merge this article with Homosexuals and the Holocaust. I think you did try to make a valid argument regarding to the homosexuals responsible for establishing the Nazi party and that the Nazis didn't fully persecute gays. --KStanley 12:46, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

Shirer quote[edit]

I've been looking in my copy of "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich", and also did a quick search on an online version, and I can't find the quote attributed to that book. Can someone confirm its accuracy?--Whizkid 13:50, 27 May 2010 (EDT)