Talk:Essay:Greatest Conservative TV Shows

Six Million Dollar Man

The technology could have been developed by private companies under contract with the government.--Andy Schlafly 18:18, 25 May 2011 (EDT)

It "could've" been a lot of things, and I would gladly concede the point given any evidence to back up such an assertion. But as I recall, the protagonist was an astronaut who was "put back together" by the OSI (a fictional government agency) and worked in the public service thereafter. LloydR 18:29, 25 May 2011 (EDT)

Star Trek

The Federation was an extremely socialist government, to the point where the very concept of money was downright offensive to humans. Furthermore, the only "capitalist" race in Star Trek--the Ferengi--started off as villains in the early TNG episodes before becoming comic relief pn DS9. --[[User:AdamDiscordia|Yours in Christ, Adam Discordia]] 00:08, 26 May 2011 (EDT)

Sounds like Star Trek should be downgraded to "Debatable Whether Conservative." Please feel free to move it ... but "Trekies" may not like that!--Andy Schlafly 00:26, 26 May 2011 (EDT)

Aye. They got rid of money. TOS was actually started off as a protest of war and the US involvement in foreign affairs. That's why the "Prime Directive" is to not interfere with other cultures. Ayzmo 20:38, 4 October 2011 (EDT)

The Simpsons?

This may be a long shot but could the Simpsons fit under the Debatable category? Although it does occasionally send liberal messages, it embraces very conservative family values. I'm just not sure whether or not its liberal messages exclude it entirely from being included here. --JimMac 09:31, 26 May 2011 (EDT)

Personally, I don't any value -- conservative or otherwise -- in the Simpsons. I think it presents Hollywood's negative caricature of the family, as several other sitcoms have. But I welcome comments by others about this show, and thanks for the suggestion.--Andy Schlafly 10:23, 26 May 2011 (EDT)

I would agree - showing a dysfunctional family is hardly conservative. It would be like saying the abysmal "Married with children" is conservative. TracyS 11:21, 26 May 2011 (EDT)

Action shows

I'm thinking about shows from my youth, such as CHiPs - which portrays law enforcement in a positive light, while wholesome lead characters and little violence, and MacGuyver, again a show with little violence and a character using Yankee ingenuity to extract himself from a tight situation. TracyS 11:21, 26 May 2011 (EDT)

King Of the Hill

Definitely conservative...its definitely the most realistic modern cartoon show and the Hill family is Republican (but not demonized for being so). RichDunbar 23:50, 28 May 2011 (EDT)

Storage Wars

Emphasizes capitalist and free market values. Plus on another level, it illustrates the importance of personal responsibility; the lockers that are being auctioned off belonged to people who decided not to pay their bills. --FergusE 16:43, 7 July 2011 (EDT)

Pawn Stars

While it does prove the free market prevails, the show contains a great deal of profanity.--JamesWilson 14:04, 21 July 2011 (EDT)

Conservative humour

I am sorry if this is a silly (or repeated) question but how do you define conservative humour? MaxFletcher 23:41, 19 September 2011 (EDT)

My personal definition is humor that shows the irony and extreme folly in following liberal beliefs. There's a lot of good stuff out there. RSnelik 00:28, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

Examples of conservative humor would include poking fun of political correctness, demonstrating contradictions in liberal beliefs, establishing some accountability for liberal falsehoods, and overcoming liberal censorship.--Andy Schlafly 01:03, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

The Office

I am not sure about this one. While Ryan is clearly a caricature of liberal hypocrite, the show is still mocking conservatives like Dwight and Angela (who is an conservative hypocrite). The best presented characters (Jim & Pam) are clearly liberals.--ARamis 23:43, 19 September 2011 (EDT)

We all know Steve Carell used to work on The Daily Show, right?--CamilleT 01:15, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

The lame Daily Show would never permit the conservative humor that Carell portrayed on The Office. Could that be why he left the Daily Show for the Office???--Andy Schlafly 02:00, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

Okey Dokey.--CamilleT 02:45, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

I would not be surprised to learn it if Steve Carell made more per episode of the office while he was on that show than he did his entire tenure at the daily show. --DrDean 11:14, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

Also I thought that Jim was the main character. --DrDean 11:43, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

I truly believe that this is a pro-liberal show. As DrDean said, Jim, a liberal, is the main character and he is depicted as a pretty nice guy.--ARamis 16:43, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

The Office portrays homosexuality in a positive light and goes as far as to promote it (clear example: NBC.com IMDb, an episode that includes a homosexual looking directly at the camera and saying "Kids, sometimes it pays to be gay.") --Ty 17:10, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

Also, the early episodes do indeed indulge in "political correctness." The very second episode covers the subject, where Michael offends everyone and makes everybody uncomfortable because he keeps talking about race and holds others to racial stereotypes. The whole episode is about him being insensitive to other cultures and how it's bad. I'd also like to point out that Ricky Gervais, the creator of the original The Office and one of the big brains behind the American series is an atheist and probable liberal, and likely had much influence over development. Particularly in the earlier episodes.--CamilleT 17:27, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

Thank you for refreshing our memories, Camille. The piece Gervais wrote in The Wall Street Journal of December 22, 2010 says it all: Why I Do Not Believe in a God ("In a provocative essay at Christmas, a British writer and comedian explains why he remains an avowed atheist").--Ty 17:48, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

Antiques Roadshow

Here is all I found on the fraud scandal. A couple of dealers on the show were using their fame to acquire antiques below price. There are many dealers on the show. I suggest Antiques Roadshow be reinstated.--CamilleT 11:54, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

I couldn't fit it into the edit summary but apparently many of them would bring around objects that they already owned and have associates bring them in posing as their owners and give them high appraisals on air as well. I think that it should be removed from the list all together myself. --DrDean 12:00, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

I see. I am a bit of a fan of the show. May I ask for a citation, please?--CamilleT 12:01, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

this book--DrDean 12:10, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

@%#^#@ Every time I want to learn something I always have to read a book. Well, I'll take your word for it. I'm broke, and my library is far away.--CamilleT 12:12, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

Star Trek

The idea has already been discussed and you at least approved of a move. I further contributed that the show was created as a protest against the US' involvement in the Vietnam War. Roddenberry believed that the US should not be involved in the affairs of other countries as shown in the Prime Directive.[1]. It is also quite progressive in many ways including questioning values of all levels. The economy in Star Trek is entirely nonexistent with no money and exchanges instead fulfilled on the promise of self-betterment. I can go on if you like. Ayzmo :) 22:12, 21 October 2011 (EDT)

The views of a creator of a show are almost irrelevant. The point is what the show became, and your comments do not fully address the reasons given for its inclusion.--Andy Schlafly 22:56, 21 October 2011 (EDT)