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Basic rights only

12:14, 23 January 2008 LowKey (Talk | contribs) New user account ‎ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by LowKey (talk)

Added. Congratulations to you!--CPalmer 11:56, 9 April 2010 (EDT)

Categorizing

Thanks for adding categories to some of my entries (Urim and Thummim, Mary Celeste). I seem to have a mental block about creating categories; I constantly forget to do it. EMorris 15:55, 8 February 2011 (EST)

No problem, Morris!--CPalmer 11:14, 17 June 2011 (EDT)

Hey

Thanks for doing all the work on cats and stuff.--JamesWilson 10:10, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

No problem - thank you for noticing. There are still just under 1000 uncategorised pages, so there's plenty more to do.--CPalmer 11:20, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

Don't worry. I may not have the time I did 2 years or so ago, but I can help with those categories. WesleyS ^Hello! 14:11, 11 August 2011 (EDT)

I just wanted to give you kudos too for all the work you've been doing in adding the cats! Great job! --SharonW 12:54, 11 August 2011 (EDT)

Thanks for your kind words, though of course my slow, steady progress is its own reward.--CPalmer 08:34, 12 August 2011 (EDT)

Username

Hi! What's wrong with it? It's the Italian for "God is abundance", isn't it? Is there a word problem? --Dioporco 11:20, 16 August 2011 (EDT)

I think it means "God pig". So you can see why I thought it was blasphemous. "Porco" certainly means "pig" - perhaps someone has been having a joke at your expense?--CPalmer 11:23, 16 August 2011 (EDT)

Thanks for the re-add

Thanks for re-adding me to your accursed list...:) WesleyS ^Hello! 09:45, 17 August 2011 (EDT)

Granted extra privileges

Your account has been granted the extra privileges of blocking rights and SkipCatcha. Congratulations!--Andy Schlafly 10:29, 17 August 2011 (EDT)

Thanks! I'll try and put them to good use.--CPalmer 10:30, 17 August 2011 (EDT)

Congrats! I guess you're not the fourth longest-running basic rights user anymore.--JamesWilson 10:54, 17 August 2011 (EDT)

No, that honour will pass to someone else.--CPalmer 11:00, 17 August 2011 (EDT)

You broke your record, but congrats! RE emails - I created a CP only email and posted the address on my user page. That way, if anyone wants to get a hold of me they can. --SharonW 11:07, 17 August 2011 (EDT)

Working together

Thanks for the cats and links to Role 3. --Ed Poor ^Talk 12:18, 31 August 2011 (EDT)

No problem. Good work creating the content, which is the greater part of the work.--CPalmer 12:36, 31 August 2011 (EDT)

Great block!

Great block!--Andy Schlafly 12:05, 10 October 2011 (EDT)

Thank you! It seemed quite a clear-cut case.--CPalmer 12:16, 10 October 2011 (EDT)

Comment erroneously posted on main user page

You know that Benp has now quit? --NickCope 12:17, 11 October 2011 (EDT)

It doesn't really matter for the purposes of the list. I still like him, and he will remain there until I am inspired to add other people. Of course, if he is still absent the next time I make an addition, that will count against him and he may be in line for removal!--CPalmer 12:35, 11 October 2011 (EDT)

And now it seems that you yoruself are no longer with us. Sic transit.--CPalmer 08:25, 12 October 2011 (EDT)

Spam

Hi CPalmer. I posted a comment on this talk page because I'm worried that user might be a spam program trying to piggyback off the site to get hits to the advertising link he posted on his user page. See my comment for the details. Thank you! Kevin Davis ^Talk 08:45, 14 October 2011 (EDT)

I see what you are saying but as far as I know, there is no rule against posting links on one's user page. If the user were to start spamming on other pages, that would certainly be unacceptable.--CPalmer 08:56, 14 October 2011 (EDT)

My only concern would be that a search engine would index it, see that the exact same content has been posted elsewhere, and flag this site as a spam site (or at least a site where spammers have free reign). Yes, it's not fair, but I've read about Google's PageRank algorithm taking similar procedures to protect against malware and JavaScript vulnerabilities that edit page content. Kevin Davis ^Talk 12:38, 14 October 2011 (EDT)

Back

Are you "Dr. Pal" from the old days? :-) --Ed Poor ^Talk 09:50, 14 October 2011 (EDT)

No - I don't know a Dr Pal. I've always been CPalmer.--CPalmer 09:51, 14 October 2011 (EDT)

Sorry, I guess I was thinking of "PalMD". --Ed Poor ^Talk 14:31, 14 October 2011 (EDT)

Talk page fix

Thanks for reverting the code breakage on my page; I had undone the problem on Mr. Schlafly's page, but I could not block the troublesome user so he was free to continuing breaking pages. Thanks for the help! Kevin Davis ^Talk 08:51, 22 November 2011 (EST)

You're welcome

You're welcome re: the promotion - it is well-deserved!--Andy Schlafly 10:17, 23 March 2012 (EDT)

Thanks again!--CPalmer 10:28, 23 March 2012 (EDT)

Wikipedia independent thought/hearsay

Wikipedia...intelligent thought? Surely that is a joke! :)--James Wilson 11:45, 13 April 2012 (EDT)

No hearsay template

Your "no hearsay" template is very interesting!--Andy Schlafly 10:28, 16 April 2012 (EDT)

Thanks - I haven't added it to any articles as yet but I think it's something that could be useful here, either for essays or for sections of articles that go against prevailing online consensuses. Just because a reference can't be found for something doesn't mean it's not true - and any original insight will by definition be impossible to find a reference for.--CPalmer 10:45, 16 April 2012 (EDT)

Template quotes

Thanks for categorizing my category - it's the first one I created on this wiki, I think.

I tried to identify some of the quotes, which isn't easy: the names are quite arbitrary. I hope that User:Ed Poor will be able to spot them all. When the quotes are categorized, I think the best thing will be to have a list of their contents, too - I'm not sure whether this can be done on the page of the category itself or has to be done separately.

Another improvement would be a more unified look of the quotes and their sources - that is something to be left for User:Ed Poor, too.

AugustO 04:42, 14 June 2012 (EDT)

That's no problem. One of the things I do here is try to keep control of the number of uncategorized categories - currently below 50, I believe, which is manageable.

On the other hand, this quotes issue led me to start looking around at templates and there are an absolute mountain of those that have no categories as yet. Any categories that get added as a result of this tidying up of quotes will be a very welcome drop in that ocean, apart from any other benefits, so thank you. You are doing good work!--CPalmer 05:37, 14 June 2012 (EDT)

Thanks! AugustO 06:00, 14 June 2012 (EDT)

Joke sports

It seems to me you're expending a lot of "unnecessary effort" to include as many sports as you can in the list, and to disparage the efforts of the athletes who train in these sports. Why? SharonW 12:17, 10 August 2012 (EDT)

Not so - not at all. I have made only three additions to the list - a small minority of what is on there. There have been various removals that I have not opposed, and indeed I made two removals myself.

It's also not my intention to denigrate anyone's efforts. I know that it takes a great deal of dedication, toil and inherent talent to win an Olympic medal in any discipline. People and governments are guided in the sports they choose, or choose to fund, by the decisions of the IOC and other bodies, and I think it's the sports governing bodies who need to change their approach so that the athletes' hard work is directed into something that is as worthwhile as possible.--CPalmer 12:24, 10 August 2012 (EDT)

And who is to set themselves up as judge and jury to decide what is "worthwhile" or not? If an athlete enjoys the sport, who are we to decide that the sport is a "joke", or that it is a waste of time for that athlete? Millions of dollars are spent in American football every year- and its point is? When I was little, and my dad watched football on TV, I thought the point was to see how many men could end up stacked in a pile. As an adult, to me it seems like it's just a chance for grown men to inflict violence on each other while chasing a ball around the field without facing legal ramifications. It's no more "worthwhile" in my eyes than the backstroke is in yours, but I'm not out there trying to justify its inclusion in the "joke sport" category. If you don't like the sport, then don't watch. Simple as that. SharonW 12:42, 10 August 2012 (EDT)

The IOC is the judge and the jury. They already do include some sports and exclude others, and they choose to allow different numbers of events in different sports. What I and others are saying is that we don't agree with some of the IOC's decisions. Maybe the term "joke sports" is unnecessarily inflammatory, but I wasn't the first to use it. That aside, what is so wrong with questioning or disagreeing with the IOC?

To give an example. The IOC allows FINA to award 34 gold medals for swimming, but restricts the UCI to only ten for track cycling. Why? The UCI would love to enlarge its program, there are lots of events it could include that seem more distinct than current swimming events, but it isn't allowed to - swimming is deemed 3.4 times more worthwhile a sport. So it's all very well you defending your hard-training, dedicated, deserving backstroke swimmers, but what about 1km cycling time triallists? What about individual pursuit riders? What about pairs who were hoping to compete in the Madison? An unquestioning acceptance of the IOC's diktat doesn't do much for their Olympic dreams.--CPalmer 06:01, 15 August 2012 (EDT)

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-==Award==
-I am declaring you an honourary [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiGnome WikiGnome] for all your efforts in doing the fiddly things no-one else seems to do. --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]]<sup>[[User talk:JessicaT|''ohayougozaimasu'']]</sup> 12:51, 4 January 2009 (EST)
-[[Image:Wikignome.png|200px|left]]
+== Basic rights only ==
-:Thanks! And congratulations to you on your well-deserved promotion - Conservapedia will benefit enormously from your extra powers.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 13:23, 4 January 2009 (EST)
+:14, 23 January 2008 LowKey (Talk | contribs) New user account ‎ {{unsigned|LowKey}}
-::Thank you! Please yell if there is some way I can put these mysterious new powers to use helping you out. --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]]<sup>[[User talk:JessicaT|''ohayougozaimasu'']]</sup> 13:28, 4 January 2009 (EST)
-== Great addition ==
+:::Added. Congratulations to you!--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 11:56, 9 April 2010 (EDT)
-That's a great addition to [[Essay:Best New Conservative Words]]!!!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:11, 12 January 2009 (EST)
+== Categorizing ==
-:Thanks - I've been trying to think of a word that would be suitable, but not come up with anything good so far. I'll add it if I do...--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 10:24, 12 January 2009 (EST)
+Thanks for adding categories to some of my entries (Urim and Thummim, Mary Celeste). I seem to have a mental block about creating categories; I constantly forget to do it. [[User:EMorris|EMorris]] 15:55, 8 February 2011 (EST)
+:No problem, Morris!--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 11:14, 17 June 2011 (EDT)
-== Liberal deceit ==
+== Hey ==
-That's isn't a category, but a re-direct to [[deceit]].  The category for it, and the like is "Liberalism" which is added by the template "liberalism".  --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]<sub><small><small>/Admin</small></small></sub><sup>[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]</sup> 15:47, 12 January 2009 (EST)
+Thanks for doing all the work on cats and stuff.--[[User:JamesWilson|JamesWilson]] 10:10, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
+:No problem - thank you for noticing. There are still just under 1000 uncategorised pages, so there's plenty more to do.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 11:20, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
+::Don't worry.  I may not have the time I did 2 years or so ago, but I can help with those categories.  [[User:WesleyS|WesleyS]][[User Talk:WesleyS|<sup>Hello!</sup>]] 14:11, 11 August 2011 (EDT)
+I just wanted to give you kudos too for all the work you've been doing in adding the cats! Great job! --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 12:54, 11 August 2011 (EDT)
+:::Thanks for your kind words, though of course my slow, steady progress is its own reward.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 08:34, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
+==Username==
+Hi! What's wrong with it? It's the Italian for "God is abundance", isn't it? Is there a word problem? --[[User:Dioporco|Dioporco]] 11:20, 16 August 2011 (EDT)
+:I think it means "God pig". So you can see why I thought it was blasphemous. "Porco" certainly means "pig" - perhaps someone has been having a joke at your expense?--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 11:23, 16 August 2011 (EDT)
-:Seems logical. Thanks--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 07:57, 13 January 2009 (EST)
+== Thanks for the re-add ==
-== query. ==
+Thanks for re-adding me to your accursed list...:)  [[User:WesleyS|WesleyS]][[User Talk:WesleyS|<sup>Hello!</sup>]] 09:45, 17 August 2011 (EDT)
-Just on your query "is there a way to list articles where the reflist is missing?" I am not 100% sure what you mean, but can I help? --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]]<sup>[[User talk:JessicaT|''nandeyanen?'']]</sup> 09:36, 19 January 2009 (EST)
+== Granted extra privileges ==
-:Just that in articles that have a <nowiki><ref></nowiki> tag but not a <nowiki><references/></nowiki> tag, you get a big red error message at the bottom of the page. I've come across a few of these by chance, but I was wondering whether there was a more systematic way to find and fix them (I also queried it at [[User Talk:EdBot]]).--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 09:41, 19 January 2009 (EST)
+Your account has been granted the extra privileges of blocking rights and SkipCatcha.  Congratulations!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:29, 17 August 2011 (EDT)
+:Thanks! I'll try and put them to good use.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 10:30, 17 August 2011 (EDT)
+::Congrats! I guess you're not the fourth longest-running basic rights user anymore.--[[User:JamesWilson|JamesWilson]] 10:54, 17 August 2011 (EDT)
+:::No, that honour will pass to someone else.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 11:00, 17 August 2011 (EDT)
-:See the bottom of [[Talk:Barack Obama]] for an example of what I mean.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 09:42, 19 January 2009 (EST)
+You broke your record, but congrats! RE emails - I created a CP only email and posted the address on my user page. That way, if anyone wants to get a hold of me they can. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 11:07, 17 August 2011 (EDT)
-::(NMHOB) I misread you and fixed that one, then re-read and realised what you meant.... sorry. [[User:MikeSalter|MikeSalter]] 09:45, 19 January 2009 (EST)
+==Working together==
-:::Ah, I see what you mean. To be honest I have no idea if there is an "easy" way to find them (like when I had to find all the unprotected pictures). Edbot might be your best bet. Sorry I can not help. :( --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]]<sup>[[User talk:JessicaT|''nandeyanen?'']]</sup> 09:48, 19 January 2009 (EST)
+Thanks for the [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Role_3&diff=908095&oldid=908093 cats] and [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Role_3&diff=908096&oldid=908095 links] to [[Role 3]]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 12:18, 31 August 2011 (EDT)
-:::No problem Mike. For the benefit of anyone else reading this, I'm going to make an example at [[User:CPalmer/Missingrefs]].--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 09:49, 19 January 2009 (EST)
+:No problem. Good work creating the content, which is the greater part of the work.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 12:36, 31 August 2011 (EDT)
-::::Found a list! [http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=site%3Awww.conservapedia.com+%22cite+error%22&btnG=Google+Search&meta= This] Google search brings up several pages of them. Perhaps someone with some spare time might offer their services?--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 09:56, 19 January 2009 (EST)
+== Great block! ==
-:::::Well done! Please copy the link on my talk page. I will help out with them when I get back home from the dojo. --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]]<sup>[[User talk:JessicaT|''nandeyanen?'']]</sup> 10:04, 19 January 2009 (EST)
-::::::I have had a look at a few of those on the Google list and it seems as if it is a bigger problem. Most of those seem to be named reference tags, with no original reference linked to them. Tricky. --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]]<sup>[[User talk:JessicaT|''nandeyanen?'']]</sup> 13:29, 19 January 2009 (EST)
+Great block!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 12:05, 10 October 2011 (EDT)
+:Thank you! It seemed quite a clear-cut case.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 12:16, 10 October 2011 (EDT)
-== Thanks for the heads-up ==
+== Comment erroneously posted on main user page ==
-I'll redo that [[liberal ideology]] edit then. [[User:Underscoreb|Underscoreb]] 21:41, 3 February 2009 (EST)
-:You're welcome, Unders.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 08:30, 4 February 2009 (EST)
-==Pokemon deletions==
+You know that Benp has now quit? --[[User:NickCope|NickCope]] 12:17, 11 October 2011 (EDT)
-Having a bit of fun with it, are you (i.e. deleticus, I choose you!)?  Good stuff. :)  [[User:WesleyS|WesleyS]][[User Talk:WesleyS|<sup>Hello!</sup>]] 14:20, 9 February 2009 (EST)
-:Yes, small things and small minds I know, but it livens up the recent change list.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 14:21, 9 February 2009 (EST)
-::This is true.  Delete, delete, delete is too plain.  Imagine how dull it was to read cat, cat, cat, recat, cat the cat, etc a few months ago between the two of us.  [[User:WesleyS|WesleyS]][[User Talk:WesleyS|<sup>Hello!</sup>]] 14:24, 9 February 2009 (EST)
-:::The trouble is, now that all those pages have been deleted my super-exciting edit comments are lost forever.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 10:51, 10 February 2009 (EST)
-== [[East India Company]] ==
+:It doesn't really matter for the purposes of the list. I still like him, and he will remain there until I am inspired to add other people. Of course, if he is still absent the next time I make an addition, that will count against him and he may be in line for removal!--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 12:35, 11 October 2011 (EDT)
+::And now it seems that you yoruself are no longer with us. Sic transit.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 08:25, 12 October 2011 (EDT)
-Economic History as the category, and not International Trade, or trade of some sort? Did you check with Wesley, me or anyone else? --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]<sub><small><small>/Admin</small></small></sub><sup>[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]</sup> 16:48, 10 February 2009 (EST)
+== Spam ==
-:Good point - I've re-added the category, and integrated it into the existing categories. (I removed it because it was a red link with no other articles in it, so not very useful as it stood.)--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 10:27, 11 February 2009 (EST)
-== Funny characters ==
+Hi CPalmer. I posted a comment on [[User talk:Billyclark123|this talk page]] because I'm worried that user might be a spam program trying to piggyback off the site to get hits to the advertising link he posted on his user page. See my comment for the details. Thank you! [[User:KevinDavis|Kevin Davis]] <sup>[[User talk:KevinDavis|Talk]]</sup> 08:45, 14 October 2011 (EDT)
-Just fixed them all, thanks for pointing that out. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 18:35, 10 February 2009 (EST)
+:I see what you are saying but as far as I know, there is no rule against posting links on one's user page. If the user were to start spamming on other pages, that would certainly be unacceptable.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 08:56, 14 October 2011 (EDT)
-:No problem - thanks for coming to it so quickly.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 10:27, 11 February 2009 (EST)
+::My only concern would be that a search engine would index it, see that the exact same content has been posted elsewhere, and flag this site as a spam site (or at least a site where spammers have free reign). Yes, it's not fair, but I've read about Google's PageRank algorithm taking similar procedures to protect against malware and JavaScript vulnerabilities that edit page content. [[User:KevinDavis|Kevin Davis]] <sup>[[User talk:KevinDavis|Talk]]</sup> 12:38, 14 October 2011 (EDT)
-== Bible references  ==
+==Back==
-Thanks for pointing that out. It was something I forgot to do after the crash. It's working correctly now. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 17:03, 19 February 2009 (EST)
+Are you "Dr. Pal" from the old days? :-) --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 09:50, 14 October 2011 (EDT)
-==Where is Hell?==
+:No - I don't know a Dr Pal. I've always been CPalmer.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 09:51, 14 October 2011 (EDT)
-I have been reading your interesting essay and it's responses and thought I would add a little trivia to the mix. Ironically, being Christian, but still being influenced by the family's Shinto/Buddhist beliefs, I have 3 hells to choose from - the Christian Hell; Buddhist Naraku (much like the Greek Hades) and Jigoku (derived from the Chinese ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diyu Diyu]''). Actually - compare Diyu to the Hell of Dante's Inferno - might make interesting reading.
-Another interest point, is that while the Greeks believed the River Styx separated earth from the underworld, Japanese believe they cross the River Sanzu and are even buried with 6 coins to pay the ferryman. Strange that 2 such different cultures should have such similar beliefs. --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]]<sup>[[User talk:JessicaT|''nandeyanen?'']]</sup> 06:40, 21 February 2009 (EST)
+::Sorry, I guess I was thinking of "PalMD". --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 14:31, 14 October 2011 (EDT)
+== Categories ==
+Kudos: That was a herculean task! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 09:19, 18 November 2011 (EST)
+:Thanks! Though technically I think it is a Sisyphean task, since people do keep on creating new pages...--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 10:40, 18 November 2011 (EST)
+Thanks for [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Pregnancy_test&diff=prev&oldid=939223 the cat]. Don't kill it! --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 21:39, 21 November 2011 (EST)
+== Talk page fix ==
+Thanks for reverting the code breakage on my page; I had undone the problem on Mr. Schlafly's page, but I could not block the troublesome user so he was free to continuing breaking pages. Thanks for the help! [[User:KevinDavis|Kevin Davis]] <sup>[[User talk:KevinDavis|Talk]]</sup> 08:51, 22 November 2011 (EST)
+== You're welcome ==
+You're welcome re: the promotion - it is well-deserved!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:17, 23 March 2012 (EDT)
+:Thanks again!--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 10:28, 23 March 2012 (EDT)
+== Wikipedia independent thought/hearsay ==
+Wikipedia...intelligent thought? Surely that is a joke! :)--[[User:JamesWilson|James Wilson]] 11:45, 13 April 2012 (EDT)
+== No hearsay template ==
+Your "no hearsay" template is very interesting!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:28, 16 April 2012 (EDT)
+:Thanks - I haven't added it to any articles as yet but I think it's something that could be useful here, either for essays or for sections of articles that go against prevailing online consensuses. Just because a reference can't be found for something doesn't mean it's not true - and any original insight will by definition be impossible to find a reference for.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 10:45, 16 April 2012 (EDT)
+== Template quotes ==
+Thanks for categorizing my category - it's the first one I created on this wiki, I think.
+I tried to identify some of the quotes, which isn't easy: the names are quite arbitrary. I hope that [[User:Ed Poor]] will be able to spot them all. When the  quotes are categorized, I think the best thing will be to have a list of their contents, too - I'm not sure whether this can be done on the page of the category itself or has to be done separately.
+Another improvement would be a more unified look of the quotes and their sources - that is something to be left for [[User:Ed Poor]], too.
+[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 04:42, 14 June 2012 (EDT)
+:That's no problem. One of the things I do here is try to keep control of the number of uncategorized categories - currently below 50, I believe, which is manageable.
+:On the other hand, this quotes issue led me to start looking around at templates and there are an absolute mountain of those that have no categories as yet. Any categories that get added as a result of this tidying up of quotes will be a very welcome drop in that ocean, apart from any other benefits, so thank you. You are doing good work!--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 05:37, 14 June 2012 (EDT)
+::Thanks! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 06:00, 14 June 2012 (EDT)
+== Joke sports ==
+It seems to me you're expending a lot of "unnecessary effort" to include as many sports as you can in the list, and to disparage the efforts of the athletes who train in these sports. Why? [[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 12:17, 10 August 2012 (EDT)
+:Not so - not at all. I have made only three additions to the list - a small minority of what is on there. There have been various removals that I have not opposed, and indeed I made two removals myself.
+:It's also not my intention to denigrate anyone's efforts. I know that it takes a great deal of dedication, toil and inherent talent to win an Olympic medal in any discipline. People and governments are guided in the sports they choose, or choose to fund, by the decisions of the IOC and other bodies, and I think it's the sports governing bodies who need to change their approach so that the athletes' hard work is directed into something that is as worthwhile as possible.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 12:24, 10 August 2012 (EDT)
+::And who is to set themselves up as judge and jury to decide what is "worthwhile" or not? If an athlete enjoys the sport, who are we to decide that the sport is a "joke", or that it is a waste of time for that athlete? Millions of dollars are spent in American football every year- and its point is? When I was little, and my dad watched football on TV, I thought the point was to see how many men could end up stacked in a pile. As an adult, to me it seems like it's just a chance for grown men to inflict violence on each other while chasing a ball around the field without facing legal ramifications. It's no more "worthwhile" in my eyes than the backstroke is in yours, but I'm not out there trying to justify its inclusion in the "joke sport" category. If you don't like the sport, then don't watch. Simple as that. [[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 12:42, 10 August 2012 (EDT)
+:::The IOC is the judge and the jury. They already do include some sports and exclude others, and they choose to allow different numbers of events in different sports. What I and others are saying is that we don't agree with some of the IOC's decisions. Maybe the term "joke sports" is unnecessarily inflammatory, but I wasn't the first to use it. That aside, what is so wrong with questioning or disagreeing with the IOC?
+:::To give an example. The IOC allows FINA to award 34 gold medals for swimming, but restricts the UCI to only ten for track cycling. Why? The UCI would love to enlarge its program, there are lots of events it could include that seem more distinct than current swimming events, but it isn't allowed to - swimming is deemed 3.4 times more worthwhile a sport. So it's all very well you defending your hard-training, dedicated, deserving backstroke swimmers, but what about 1km cycling time triallists? What about individual pursuit riders? What about pairs who were hoping to compete in the Madison? An unquestioning acceptance of the IOC's diktat doesn't do much for their Olympic dreams.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 06:01, 15 August 2012 (EDT)