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Updates Needed
Some of the information in this article is out of date. For instance, coal is now one of the most expensive means of electrical production. Natural gas has surpassed coal as a major energy source. Changes should be made for the sake of accuracy. https://www.eia.gov/electricity/annual/html/epa_08_04.html https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3
- Anti-coal policy and anti-coal government regulations raised the cost of coal. Still likely cheaper than most other sources but you do have a link! Maybe research other nations use of coal first. --Jpatt 21:45, 19 April 2017 (EDT)
Why was a critique of Spanish renewable energy generation added to an article about coal mining? Doesn’t make any sense. --GinnyS (talk) 13:44, 30 June 2017 (EDT)
- It shows that moving away from coal power and coal mining, whether for environmental benefits or to improve the health of coal miners, is not necessarily beneficial. --1990'sguy (talk) 13:52, 30 June 2017 (EDT)
- I’m sure you believe what you’re saying, but this is an article about coal mining, not a critique of renewable energy. Instead of complaining about renewable energy in this article, why not make the complaint in an appropriate article, say like, renewable energy?--GinnyS (talk) 14:02, 30 June 2017 (EDT)
- Thanks for the feedback. I added two more facts about coal. Conservative (talk) 16:01, 30 June 2017 (EDT)
- I’m sure you believe what you’re saying, but this is an article about coal mining, not a critique of renewable energy. Instead of complaining about renewable energy in this article, why not make the complaint in an appropriate article, say like, renewable energy?--GinnyS (talk) 14:02, 30 June 2017 (EDT)
This was a nice informative article, that is, until recently. Not only has unreferenced information been added, it has now migrated to the second line. Jpatt challenged me to provide references for my assertion about the decline of coal and the rising cost of using coal for power generation. I did then added the information, it seems I satisfied this administrator for there was no complaint. Conservative on the other hand has added unreferenced tidbits and then moved these bits to the beginning of the article. I was reminded by JDano not to insert opinion into the articles. Conservative’s edit concerning Trump and Obama is nothing but speculative opinion without a reference. Sigh…--GinnyS (talk) 11:44, 1 July 2017 (EDT)
- It is widely known that part of the reason why Trump won PA was because of his commitment to expand coal production. This is a campaign promise he is keeping and could not afford not to keep as he needs to win PA in 2020. I added more information to the article and mentioned that coal production is ramping up in 2017 and I also added a footnote for the Trump/Obama portion of the article.
- Lastly, if it wasn't for GinnyS trying to remove valid information from the article because of a liberal desire to alter reality, I may not have even edited the article. Conservative (talk) 12:13, 4 July 2017 (EDT)
More Updates Needed
The two most recent updates need work. At 37.26 mills/kWh (2015), coal is the most expensive of the four primary means of producing electrical power. Renewables such as wind and solar are already cheaper and are becoming more so as the economies of scale are becoming reality. Simply put, coal is no longer an inexpensive source of power generation, and for the second sentence of this article to say so is a flat out distortion of reality. [2]
The Trump/Obama allegations are completely unreferenced and should be removed. This was a good article with only minor updates needed until inappropriate edits were made. --GinnyS (talk) 11:42, 4 July 2017 (EDT)
- Government subsidy isn't free, so you should consider the taxpayer dollars pouring into the renewable sources when analyzing their costs. Ironically, the renewable sources are being partially paid for by coal miners and oil companies through tax. DMorris (talk) 12:07, 4 July 2017 (EDT)
- GinnyS, you don't understand basic accounting. Operating expenses are just one of categories of expenses for a company.
- Capital expenditures can be another category of expenses for organizations (See:
