I noticed you recently extended a couple blocks to infinite. I have no problem with your intentions--clearly those accounts will never be used for good purposes. However, there is one issue--not only are the user accounts blocked, but the IP addresses used by them are also blocked. IP addresses have the habit of getting reassigned to different people eventually (some people get new IPs every 6 months or less), so it is not really healthy to have them blocked forever. Thus the issue: Block only the account forever, allowing the same troll to register more accounts from the same IP, or block the IP and account for a limited time, so the troll is stopped from reusing the same address.
I don't know for sure what is best, but please try to do only one or the other. My preference is to do a timed block on the IP and account, but it's not ideal. Andy has bee reducing user/IP blocks to 6 months lately, when he sees them. --David B (TALK) 20:31, 8 January 2019 (EST)
- Autoblocks on the IPs only last for 24 hours regardless of how long the account is blocked for. If the autoblocks lasted as long as the block on the account, no wi-fi hotspot in all of Port Charlotte would be able to edit that one wiki whose name starts with an "R," nor would half of my wireless carrier's /16 range. DMorris (talk) 20:42, 8 January 2019 (EST)
- Yes, autoblock entries listed in the block log only last 24 hours. Yet, I have tried connecting in months later from proxies which have been used used by vandals, and autoblock kicks in and issues another 24 hour block for some reason.
- I finally went and read up on it, and learned something. In short, it looks like you are right (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Autoblock). However, I have seen autoblock triggered again at a later time, so I'll need to do some experimentation. Thanks for straightening me out--I'll go try to learn why it sometimes seems to persist afterwards. --David B (TALK) 20:51, 8 January 2019 (EST)
- The autoblock kicks in if the same user logs in again and tries to edit, I think, but it doesn't matter what IP it is, any IP they try to edit from gets autoblocked. There's nothing really we can do if someone tries to abuse that, but it would be petty because the block would only last 24 hours at a time anyway. Save for the time I left my account on Wikipedia logged in on a public computer like an amateur, the only wiki I've ever been blocked on is that one that starts with an "R" (and I have seen their block message plenty of times), so... DMorris (talk) 10:05, 9 January 2019 (EST)
- Interesting.... that would make sense. I have been playing around a little and been unable to reproduce the issue, but your explanation makes sense. 24 hours just wouldn't be worth trying to abuse, so yes, I wouldn't worry about that. Thanks for straightening me out! --David B (TALK) 23:08, 9 January 2019 (EST)
- Sure, it's in the front few pages of every Gideon bible, and it's also on the application which I believe is available on gideons.org. You can see that i am a member because I am wearing the name tag in the picture on my user page (the lady is not a member... at least not yet) I am editing from my phone right now, but I'm going to fire up the laptop and put the reference in the article. The men have to be 21 or older and either be business leaders (managing a McDonalds classifies as being a business leader though), some flavor of professional (I am an actively licensed real estate professional, which is how I qualify), or someone retired from such a profession. The ladies, known as "auxillaries" just have to be married to a Gideon and be a church member with a profession of faith. DMorris (talk) 21:42, 12 February 2019 (EST)