Difference between revisions of "Talk:Best arguments against homosexuality"

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"It's another Leftist political movement, which Communists support"? No, in fact communists have often persecuted homosexuals.--JoeyJ (talk) 17:05, 2 January 2018 (EST)

Does Goal #26 of the 1963 Communist goals for America ("Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as 'normal, natural, healthy'") ring a bell? [1] Northwest (talk) 17:56, 2 January 2018 (EST)

I'll be debating this article, as a Conservative myself and a Bisexual.

"Homosexuality is unhealthy, and it's better to encourage people to adopt healthier lifestyles" This is false, there are many healthy homosexuals, if it was a choice it wouldn't lead to a shorter life would it now? "It's not pro-life - it leads to various diseases, physical and psychological disorders and early death among those who practice homosexual behavior" If it was a choice, it'd not shorten a man or woman's life. Therefore it must be genetic. "It's anti-Bible - no other conduct is condemned as much by the Bible as homosexuality" Why do Homosexual Christians exist then? Including those who vote Republican. "It's infringing on more important freedoms, like freedom of religion and speech" By what evidence? Sure the LGBT marches are against those Freedoms but the act itself doesn't harm anybody. "It's another Leftist political movement, which Communists support" An LGBT wing of the GOP exists. Not very Leftist. "It's promoted far too much by the liberal media - if the lifestyle were good, then why would liberal censorship of criticism be necessary?" It's unfortunate Liberals promote LGBT agenda. "People should be (and have been) able to leave the lifestyle if they want to, so why are homosexuals working hard to ban conversion therapy?" For one conversion therapy is dangerous to any party who participates in it. This is proven by established scientific fields, at the end of the day facts don't care about your feelings. "Homosexuals are wealthier than heterosexuals, so homosexuals don't need any more handouts like benefits for same-sex couples" You can easily Google "Homeless Gay man" and be proven wrong.. "It's an anti-Christian movement - why aren't homosexual activists suing Muslim or Hindu bakers for not serving same-sex marriage?" I don't know, Liberal and LGBT agenda is the issue. Not the act itself. "It's a selfish movement - notice how billionaire homosexuals are not setting up hospitals as Christians have?" How can you claim that the thousands of hospitals built in the world aren't created by Homosexuals? Additional arguments

"A study by the Canadian government states that "violence was twice as common among homosexual couples compared with heterosexual couples"." Maybe that's true, it doesn't make the act wrong however. "We should believe in real marriage instead. Homosexual men in so-called same-sex marriages generally engage in sexual relations outside their so-called marriages (see: Homosexuality and promiscuity). Homosexual couples have higher rates of domestic violence (see: Homosexual couples and domestic violence)." Maybe there are other reasons for why there is higher domestic violence rates, remember correlation is not causation. "Pathologists have indicated that homosexual homicides are quite common and leading pathologists have noted that homosexual homicides frequently display brutality/overkill (see: Homosexuality and murder)." Again, where is the evidence that Homosexuality is the causation? "Gay corruption has become too big of a problem in our country and elsewhere There is no "gay gene" and studies of twins prove this, supporting the idea that it is a lifestyle choice (see: Homosexuality and genetics)" Studies of twins are a very small sample, we need a larger sample of like 100 people or more. Also Liberal corruption is again the problem, you're fighting the wrong enemy. "The homosexual agenda is the wrong direction for our country" Liberal and LGBT abends is the wrong direction, it is not homosexuality that is ruining a country. "Many horrific crimes have been committed by men caught up in the homosexual lifestyle; there are so many examples of this that listing them here would be futile" Evidence for this? "According to Psychology Today, "Among youth who identify as sexual minorities, the likelihood of death by suicide has been estimated to be two to seven times greater than the likelihood of death by suicide among heterosexual youth (Haas et al., 2011)"." Bullying is an increasing problem in today's sexual minorities, so of course depression and suicide will be higher. "States and local communities should be deciding this, not a few liberal activist "justices" in D.C." I Agree, no problem with that. "Bible believing Christians, other faiths against homosexuality and churches have rights too (see: Homosexuality and religious liberty)." I agree, no problem with that. "Disordered conduct is the wrong direction for individuals and our Nation" Homosexuality is not disorderly, we should ban the marches though since they are since they are increasingly pro-pedophilic "Ancient Romans/Greek committed many homosexual acts and their decadent empires declined and fell." Homosexuality aren't the cause for that. Romans? Germanic Invaders. Greeks? Romans and Turks.