Talk:Essay: Are ignorance, stubbornness, and stupidity conservative values? Are maliciousness and vindictiveness conservative values?

Some people do not believe that Derek Chauvin received a fair trial. I count myself among that number.

The testimony of two witnesses establishes a fact.

To demonstrate the sheer futility of trying to have a conversation with some people whose brains are embalmed with ignorance, stubbornness, and stupidity, I will try to thumbnail a telephone conversation I had with someone who called me up to tell me what a bad guy Derek Chauvin was during Chauvin's trial.

The caller alleged, which I have no reason to doubt, that a few years back he was in Minneapolis on business and evidently was staying in or near Derek Chauvin's beat. Chauvin was alleged to have accosted him once or twice, as I recall, which I believe is entirely plausible. The caller claimed, the first time was for J-walking, and the second time was at a convenience store after dark about 10 o'clock at night in a high crime area. These he alleged were proof positive that Chauvin was a bad guy with no respect for other people's rights.

Why the caller called me with this information, I have no idea; possibly cause I may have voiced criticism of the trial in CP. But evidently, I was suppose to agree with him, based upon his word, that Chauvin was not only just a bad guy, but a bad guy toward white people, as well.

I attempted to point out, that in police work, what is considered good police work in an assigned area is for the cop to familiarize himself with the people living in the area he is assigned to, and the people he is suppose to protect - routine police work, rather than sitting on their butt and paying no attention to what is happening on their beat; and when a strange face shows up in a high crime, drug infested area (particularly from out-of-state, as allegedly, as I recall, the "victim" in this case was carded and ID'd with an out-of-state driver license when busted earlier for J-walking) after dark at a known drug trafficking location. "NO! NO! NO!", he began screaming into the phone, he didn't want to hear anymore of it. His lawbreaking for J-walking was entirely justified, and Chauvin had violated his rights by busting him, ID'ing him, and not writing him a ticket for the violation. Chauvin was a bad guy, even to white people, and that was that. I was suppose to agree with him, and that was that.

Needless to say, even though he never allowed me to finish my spiel about what is considered "good police work" because of his screaming at me on the phone, I began to doubt if live phone contact was any more rational than interacting with him on the internet. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:04, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

Disclosure: I have a brother who lives three blocks from where the George Floyd incident took place, and I myself in the 1980s lived briefly behind the Cub Food Store that was burnt down in the riots. The police precinct station that was burnt down was in that immediate vicinity as well, but I think it must've been built many years after I left. So I am well enough familiar with the area of Chauvin's beat, and where the caller was accosted by Chauvin twice.RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:30, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

Sinophobia?

As for Conservative's insertions on China's residents and the consumption of unclean meats, I would definitely contend that he is in no way a bigoted Sinophobe, rather hasty in how he phrases sentences. I believe his intended criticism was the atheistic Chinese culture, not collectively attacking Chinese people simply because a fraction of them in some regions, as my mother told me years ago, may engage in bizarre practices of eating "exotic delicacies" or whatever. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Wednesday, 10:56, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

What about sewage eating? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:01, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

Um, yeah, that's a bit of a harsh claim to make, and hopefully he has sufficient evidence to back up his assertions. Who knows? Maybe he has enough sources to create a whole "Atheism and sewage eating" article. My point here is more that I can see how Conservative is trying to vociferate ideologies but ends up attacking people too much. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Wednesday, 11:03, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

After you fought tooth and nail to keep the error in the Bill Browder article until you finally relented do you really want to write an essay related to stubbornness?

RobSmith, in the Bill Browder article, you fought tooth and nail to keep the error in the Bill Browder article until you finally relented and this is documented at Talk:Bill Browder.

So you really want to throw stones given your glass house?

Furthermore, you have yet to show one error in my various works related to international relations, Russia or China. Conservative (talk) 12:53, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

After you displayed gross ignorance about the state of unhappiness in Russia and told me how great it is, do you really want to write an essay dealing with ignorance?

In 2023, Russia ranked 74 out of 150 countries on the World happiness index.World Happiness Index 2023 Country Wise List The World Happiness Index 2023 Report will mark its 10th anniversary with the Globe Happiness Reflect, which compiles data from international surveys to show how people rank their lives in more than 150 countries.World Happiness Index 2023 Country Wise List

According to Statista.com, the happiness index, calculated as the difference between shares of happy and unhappy people, reached 18 percent in Russia in 2021, down from 51 points in 2016. To compare, an average of 44 countries surveyed worldwide was measured at 43 percent in 2021, having increased from the previous year.Happiness index in Russia compared to the world from 2011 to 2021

I cover a lot about the state of Russian unhappiness in my essay at Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?.

In summary: I trust this helps clarify who is often ignorant about Russia. Conservative (talk) 12:59, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

I realize nothing is true for you in your simpleton mindset until you read about it in the fake news media. But the quality of your education really isn't the subject of this essay. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 13:35, October 24, 2023 (EDT)