Difference between revisions of "Talk:Rational Media Board of Director and RationalWiki Moderater User: Spud and ultra-processed/unhealthy/junk food"

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Silly attack

Unhealthy food in moderation is not seriously detrimental, and you cited Spud saying, "I would never suggest that anyone should eat large quantities of it or eat it regularly. But indulging once a year on 30 April isn't going to do anybody much harm." IOWs, this "essay" is a pointless swipe at RW over a nothingburger when there are actually legitimate reasons to criticize them that you completely ignore. —LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Monday, 11:23, May 1, 2023 (EDT)

User: Conservative's response

User:Spud admits eating processed food is not a healthy practice and claims that he did not engage in science denialism

See also: Atheist hypocrisy

Drawing depicting Hippocrates

On May 1, 2023, User: Spud wrote about his post advocating that people eat processed/ultra-processed food: "...there was no science denial involved. When did I say processed food was healthy? I'll tell you when. Never. That's when. Of course, it's bad for you. Every nudnik knows that. I would never suggest that anyone should eat large quantities of it or eat it regularly. But indulging once a year on 30 April isn't going to do anybody much harm."

According to the National Institutes of Health website:

The Hippocratic Oath is widely known for its advocacy of "Do no harm". The oath does not advocate the much weaker and morally inferior position of not doing "much harm" which User: Spud uses in his rationalization of his bad behavior. In addition, when people eat unhealthy food, there is an opportunity cost in such an instance because they are not eating nutritious food that would nourish their body in such an instance.

User: Spud is an atheist. Not possessing a religious basis for morality, which can provide a basis for objective morality, atheism is fundamentally incapable of providing a coherent system of morality.^[2] See also: Atheism and ethics and Atheism and the problem of evil

The Greek philosopher Aristotle wrote: “We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.” Before User: Spud made his post advocating eating ultra-processed/processed/junk food, his user page prominently featured the junk food of french fries atop its page. And his user page still prominently displays french fries which is a type of junk food.^[3]

And of course, every bad habit such as the eating of ultra-processed/processed/junk food begins with its first act. Young and impressionable viewers of the User: Spud's post could begin a lifelong habit of eating ultra-processed/processed/junk food due to his low-quality web content relative to this unhealthy food.

Furthermore, it is inappropriate and nonsensical for User: Spud to ask people to engage in eating ultra-processed/processed/junk food, which is a type of food that has caused many people to die prematurely (heart attacks, cancer, diabetes, etc.) as an act of remembrance for his sister who died suddenly 5 years ago at the age of 42. This would be especially true if she was a regular eater of ultra-processed foods (Other than mentioning that she "absolutely loved the hot food and ice cream from Dairy Queen", User: Spud does not mention how much of ultra-processed/processed/junk food she ate as a proportion of her diet). Conservative (talk) 20:12, May 1, 2023 (EDT)

If your intent is to bash RW, perhaps you should focus more on their KiwiFarms connections rather than grasping at imaginary straws. —LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Monday, 11:32, May 1, 2023 (EDT)

Also, you should remove the link to Winter Watch, a fringe conspiratorial cesspool filled with white nationalist, anti-Jewish canards. —LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Monday, 11:38, May 1, 2023 (EDT)

I stand by what I wrote above. Conservative (talk) 11:42, May 1, 2023 (EDT)

The NIH isn't much of an authorative site, given Anthony Fauci headed it for 40 years. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 13:48, May 1, 2023 (EDT)

Two points: 1) Nothing the NIH said about the Hippocratic Oath was errant. 2) In the past, Andy pointed out that the majority of Conservapedia's audience was left of center. People politically left of center do consider the NIH to be a good source. Conservative (talk) 14:31, May 1, 2023 (EDT)

You're not going to rehab Fauci's reputation even among leftists. before it's all over. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 06:40, May 2, 2023 (EDT)

References

1. ↑ Greek Medicine, National Institutes of Health
2. ↑
   • God, Naturalism, and the Foundations of Morality by
   Paul Copan
   • Can Moral Objectivism Do Without God? by Peter S. Williams
   • Atheists and the Quest for Objective Morality by Chad Meister
   • The failure of atheism to account for morality
3. ↑ User: Spud's user page

User: Conservative is paying tribute to his sister and niece

God designed cheetahs who are able to run at blazing fast speeds.

Cheetahs eat gazelles and other prey. They do not eat cheetos! If they ate cheetos they would not be able to run very fast

I derisively laught at User: Spud who foolishly told others to eat cheetos and doubles down on his foolishness. To this day, he still has the junk food french fries atop his user page!

I woke up in the middle of the night. I wasn't particularly sleepy so I took a stroll to the local convenience store. Although I was surrounded by a large quantity of processed food in the convenience store which was supported by large marketing budgets, I made a rational choice and purchased the Sunbird Snacks product called Health Mix which was a raisin and nut mix with no added sugar or salt.

Research shows that a person's social network has an influence on them in various matters such as eating/health choices. As a tribute to my vegetarian sister and niece who are not smokers (They also do not smoke unlike a certain New Zealand atheist), if you want to join me in eating some high nutrient dense foods this week, that would be great and it would be quite rational.

It's a pity that there are wikis that engage in science denialism in both word and deed. Conservative (talk) 05:07, May 2, 2023 (EDT)

Yuk. That sounds like the school lunches Michelle Obama forced kids to eat. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 06:35, May 2, 2023 (EDT)

For thousands of years mankind did not eat ultra-processed/processed/junk food and many of them came up with delicious food that their cultures are known for. And most of them ate the food close to the table because they were not portly from eating ultra-processed/processed/junk food.

My sister, who is quite slim and not a roly-poly mess like one the founders of a secular leftist wiki, is a great cook and she does not fill the dinner table with ultra-processed/processed/junk food.

Long live nutritious food! Death to the secular leftist wiki that promotes the eating of ultra-processed/processed/junk food and whose web traffic is dying! If only one of the key founders of the secular leftist wiki ate highly nutritious food and engaged in regular exercise! If he did, he could look like the Christian Chuck Norris instead of a rotund, secular leftist clown!

Question: Who is slimmer? Trent Toulouse or Andrew Schlafly? I think we all know the answer to this question!

I laugh at the calamitious obesity of the godless eaters of ultra-processed/processed/junk food and the needless bad health outcomes they endure! Because they are stiff-necked fools who spurned knowledge and wisdom! I mock their science denialism in both words and deeds! Conservative (talk) 10:39, May 2, 2023 (EDT)

By the way, I am so glad that I am not a weak willed slave to corporate indoctrination achieved through large marketing campaigns. I pity the inferior thinking of the so-called "super atheist intellect" User: Spud and his talk page New Zealand, atheist side kick who is enslaved to his unhealthy smoking habit! They are both science deniers in both words and deeds!

And to be clear, if I am doing any dancing, it is not grave dancing, it is dancing on the foolishness of User: Spud and his New Zealand smoking side kick. To this day, their user pages are total disgraces! One user page features the junk food french fries and the other has a talk page that has a picture with a cigarette on it. Liberals and lefists always double down on their folly! Conservative (talk) 10:59, May 2, 2023 (EDT)

I've had this debate with the Europhiles and scientismists over there - How come The Science^TM in Europe says genetically modified foods are dangerous and banned in Europe whereas The Science^TM in America says genetically modified foods in America are healthy and should be encouraged? And why is government regulation holy when it can't make up its mind what The Science^TM is in leftist-domunated Europe or leftist-dominated America? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 11:12, May 2, 2023 (EDT)

The consensus of the scientific establishment more often than not produces a load of garbage. A century ago, they glowingly extolled eugenics, inspiring a certain ugly-mustached gay pinko in Germany to set up extermination camps genociding millions. And now under the same banner of scientism, we see eugenics propagated in godless neo-Marxist Europe where Down syndrome babies are mass-murdered in the womb; Mengele would sure be proud of them! Oh, and did I even mention fasci- er, I mean, Faucism? It's all the same logic: "tRuSt tHe sCieNcE!1!" —LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Tuesday, 11:21, May 2, 2023 (EDT)

My pastor thought he was older than me. He was shocked to find out that I was older than him. I often have people tell me that I look much younger than I am. I know that a nutritious diet and exercise slows down aging and gives one more energy. The Japanese live longer than most Westerners because their diet is superior and they exercise more. It's not rocket science. The proof is in the low-fat, sugar-free banana pudding - not in the Dairy Queen sundaes that User: Spud tells people to eat! Conservative (talk) 12:46, May 2, 2023 (EDT)