Talk:Essay:Conservatives of the Decade

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Top Ten Ranking

I suggest this top 10 ranking.

1. Rush Limbaugh: 20 million listeners, providing an alternative to liberal media bias.

2. Ann Coulter: While some on this list only emerged after Barack Obama's election, Ann Coulter has been irritating liberals for over 10 years.

3. Tea Party Movement: They will be an influence over the next decade as well,or atleast until Obama's final days in office in January 2013. For the first time in 30 years there is a major grassroots conservative movement. You can thank them for preventing many liberal policies on capital hill.

4. Sarah Palin: One of the few elected Republican politicians that truly represents grassroots conservatives.

5. Glenn Beck: Helped expose ACORN and led the fight against many of the actions of the Obama administration that the media had first ignored.

6. Rudy Giuliani: I'm sure that many on Conservapedia disagree with his stance on abortion. However, he was the hero of 9/11, the most popular politician in America, and an elegant spokesman on the need for a strong national defense.

7. Dick Cheney: The chief spokesman for neoconservatism.

8. Ron Paul: A libertarian-Republican whose presidential campaign gained a cult following among young voters.

9. Samuel Alito: His appointment was one of the few excellent choices made by the Bush Administration during his second term.

10. Karl Rove: The architect of Republican victories in 2000, 2002, and 2004.

Honorable Mentions

-Chippeterson December 28, 2009

REPLY: Great choices, and this sparks interesting debate. If I may be so bold, I'd particularly disagree about Limbaugh (he has the numbers, but where's the evidence of influence?), Giuliani (all talk but no achievements except making NYC safer in the 90s, at a time when most cities were getting safer due to demographic changes; don't forget that Giuliani endorsed Mario Cuomo!), Rove (architect of the 2006 loses and a big reason for the complete wipeout in 2008 also, I'm afraid!). But everyone can have his own views about this!--Andy Schlafly 21:56, 28 December 2009 (EST)

In the interest of debate, I think anyone who has as many listeners as Limbaugh must be influential. Giuliani had significant achievements as Mayor of New York, just read his bio here on conservapedia. Giuliani endorsed Cuomo, but under that logic Reagan wouldn't have made the 80's list because he once endorsed FDR and Truman. Giuliani could make the list of top 10 conservatives of the 90's or 2000's. You have a point about Rove, he's done a lot of harm and good to conservatives since 2000. Chippeterson December 28, 2009

Rush is an outstanding conservative, but my opinion is that he was more influential in the 90's than the 2000's. DMorris 11:50, 29 December 2009 (EST)

Why is Sean Hannity only listed for an honorable mention considering his involvement in the Tea Party Movement, which is a top ten candidate? DMorris 11:54, 29 December 2009 (EST)

In my opinion, we should switch Giuliani and Huckabee. The latter is clearly more conservative, and had a much bigger impact in the 2008 election. DanL 12:16, 29 December 2009 (EST)

Matt Drudge?

More of a libertarian than a classic conservative, but his influence in ending the hegemony of the mainstream media has been substantial. --Benp 22:28, 28 December 2009 (EST)

"Pat Robinson"?

I don't know this conservative, and Google hasn't helped. Perhaps Pat Robertson was intended? --JimR 23:01, 28 December 2009 (EST)

Marco Rubio?

This is a top 10 list of conservatives of the last decade. Not just the most influential conservatives since Obama took office, but in 2001, 2002, 2003 etc. Nobody knew who Marco Rubio even was a few months ago, he shouldn't even make the Honorable Mentions. Chippeterson December 28, 2009

Australia

I think that the top ten should have at least 1 outsider and as a proud Australian I would nominate John Howard who was Prime Minister of Australia from 1996-2007 and is widely considered to be one of Australia's most conservative leaders who was known for his extensive tax reform and a prolonged period of economic growth while eliminating all of Australias public debt shortly before losing the election.

If anythihng he deserves an Honorable Mention for his excellent policies. Here watch this video to gain a basic understanding

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81UUgujTWgc

General Petraeus

I'd like to recommend that he be bumped up to "Top Ten" candidate. While it's true that he hasn't sought the limelight or publicity, that's only befitting of an officer and a gentleman--and his role in waging the War on Terror has been critical. What say you all? --Benp 00:36, 29 December 2009 (EST)

The problem is nobody knows what his politcs are. For all we know he could be another Colin Powell. Chippeterson December 29, 2009

Trimming the List

There are some difficult choices to make here. However, there are a number of media figures on the list, and if we're talking about the most influential, I think the nod has to go to Rush. In a very real sense, he blazed the trail for others to follow. --Benp 10:56, 29 December 2009 (EST)


Also...as a side note...while it surely reflects well on Andy's modesty that he consistently rejects attempts to put his name on the list, I think perhaps the students who have worked so hard to make Conservapedia a success deserve an honorable mention, for demonstrating the power and success of a very new approach to education. After all, they're the ones who are going to carry the torch of conservatism into the next decade and beyond. Thoughts? --Benp 11:07, 29 December 2009 (EST)

Glenn Beck

He's a hero in the Tea Party Movement, leads in the ratings, and is pretty an investigative reporter on the Obama administration. Why shouldn't he make the top 10? Chippeterson December 29, 2009

Adding Another Category

What does everybody think about adding the category "Liberals that aren't Annoying."

-Chippeterson December 29, 2009

Jon Stewart is pretty annoying, but I like the idea. JacobB 20:28, 29 December 2009 (EST)
I find several of those liberals VERY annoying. Plus I feel Bart Stupak should be in honorable mentions category. He singlehandedly stop taxpayer funder in the House (non-read) healthcare bill. If healthcare is to move forward, it will be without abortion funding. That is hero-like, herculean Conservative effort. --Jpatt 00:42, 30 December 2009 (EST)

His bill was the reason why healthcare passed the House, hardly a conservative hero. -Chippeterson December 30, 2009

I don't think you see the wider implications. His actions may save hundreds of thousands of innocent lives -or- his actions will derail the entire bill from passage -and- he may cave as typical liberals often do. Has he staked his career with lying Democrats? Did he vote for Obama? Hero may be too strong but if he defeats the health bill in its entirety, will you change your tune? --Jpatt 01:33, 30 December 2009 (EST)

Antonin Scalia

I think Justice Antonin Scalia should be at or near the top of the top ten. Early in the decade he identified and criticized the homosexual agenda, spoke out against the censorship of God and then, later in the decade, wrote the D.C. v. Heller decision establishing the true Second Amendment right to self-defense. He also provided key votes in Bush v. Gore and many other essential 5-4 decisions. Of course, Justice Clarence Thomas also has had an excellent record the entire decade.--Andy Schlafly 00:09, 30 December 2009 (EST)


I agree that he deserves a spot in the top ten. There are a lot of worthy candidates--it's harder than I thought to narrow the list down to ten! I'd like to argue again for Rush Limbaugh to also be in the top ten. Without his influence, it's entirely possible that the other political commentators on the list would never have been able to get a foothold in the liberal-dominated media. Rush demonstrated that the market for conservatism is huge. His influence remains strong, as demonstrated by the way he took Michael Steele to task and the fact that he came out on top of the poll asking who is the main voice of the Republican Party. --Benp 11:13, 30 December 2009 (EST)
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