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Talk:Donald Trump achievements (view source)
Revision as of 06:48, June 25, 2017
, 06:48, June 25, 2017→Border patrol raid --> appropriate to add?
:::::::::::When I was asked before if size was an issue I didn't have much of an opinion, but even skimming through this page takes quite a while! It's good to show all the great things he's done, but maybe we can trip it down a bit, and eliminate anythnig he didn't directly influence. Any thoughts? --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 01:23, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
:::::::::::When I was asked before if size was an issue I didn't have much of an opinion, but even skimming through this page takes quite a while! It's good to show all the great things he's done, but maybe we can trip it down a bit, and eliminate anythnig he didn't directly influence. Any thoughts? --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 01:23, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
::::::::::::Perhaps some loose criteria would be in order, just to keep thinks neat. We don't need hard rules preventing us from entering something valuable, but perhaps trying to restrict things just a little would be smart. For example, the page is entitled "Donald Trump achievements" but then immediately explains it is about him, his administration, and congress. Should this perhaps be reduced to him and his cabinet only, and leave all others somewhere else? --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 01:44, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
::::::::::::Perhaps some loose criteria would be in order, just to keep thinks neat. We don't need hard rules preventing us from entering something valuable, but perhaps trying to restrict things just a little would be smart. For example, the page is entitled "Donald Trump achievements" but then immediately explains it is about him, his administration, and congress. Should this perhaps be reduced to him and his cabinet only, and leave all others somewhere else? --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 01:44, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
:::::::::::::DavidB4, I strongly disagree with you. Achievements by the administration and of Congress are only possible ''because'' of the election of Donald Trump, and as you mentioned Trump's cabinet members, they hold their offices ''because'' of the U.S. Senate confirming them. Additionally, when Trump makes a decision, he is surrounded by many advisors who help him make a decision and draft executive orders, etc. Conservative legislation cannot be signed by Trump unless the House and Senate (most of the time, 60% of the latter) support it. The federal government is too intermingled for us to safely only include achievements personally made by Trump himself. His 2016 election is the only reason ''any'' of this is happening. Also, achievements are achievements regardless of whether it was Trump personally or another member of his administration that he appointed.
:::::::::::::Also, the MSM has been falsely reporting that Trump has done only very little. If you read MSM reports of the first 100 days, they made it sound like Trump was vacationing at Mar-a-Lago half the time rather than governing. This page, which is fully cited, proves the MSM narrative (which still exists today) to be blatantly false. If the page is long, it is because all of these achievements really are achievements, and to show the MSM narrative to be a lie.
:::::::::::::One last thing, I will be splitting this article by year, with the main page still existing but with a much smaller size and with most of the information being in the sub-articles. It will be like the Bias in Wikipedia series. Some of those sub-articles are very long and hard to read as they are just continuous blocks of words. This one will be a piece of cake by comparison because I actually have article sections and sub-sections. I strongly oppose trimming this article (other than creating sub-articles by year as we already discussed) and think this article not only combats MSM bias but also is not out-of-line with CP standards, at least compared to other high-profile articles. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 02:48, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
== VA to deal with under/unused buildings ==
== VA to deal with under/unused buildings ==