Talk:Atheism and autism

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Why does this article exist? I'm autistic, maybe aspergers, but I was definitely diagnosed as high-functioning autistic, yet I am definitely a believer in God (if anything, I utterly hate atheists for what they did to us since the French Revolution, and I also fear that if I ever become an Atheist, it would become inevitable that I become a mass-murderer). Pokeria1 (talk) 17:01, 3 March 2016 (EST)

The medical science about this issue has more than one study and there are no indications the studies were poorly designed.
And there is no reason to hate atheists. And when atheists oppose/hinder the proclaiming of the gospel, Jesus said to love your enemies. And the Bible says that perfect love cast out all fear (1 John 4:18). And there are many Bible verses about not fearing.[1].
Please see: Fear of atheism/atheists unjustifiable and Christian patience, forgiveness and long-suffering towards atheists
If there were not well-designed studies on this issue, I would not have written the article. Conservative (talk) 05:11, 14 March 2017 (EDT)
Yes, actually, there is EVERY reason to hate atheists. Or do I have to remind you that it was atheists who often murdered us and tried to have us become extinct in the French Revolution, the Communist revolutions, Nazi Germany, and plenty of other places in history. Heck, a large part of the reason why we end up being killed easily by them is precisely BECAUSE we "showed mercy" towards them, which ultimately proved stupid like with the Encyclopedists, the progenitors of the French Revolution, where the Minister of Justice at the time decided to "show mercy" by not killing them or even prosecuting them, and how he later became one of the guillotine victims thanks in large part to that. I'd only be unafraid if we were literally unkillable and unbeatable, and unlike Jesus, we CAN'T rise from the dead. Not to mention thanks to Antonio Gramsci, we've also got atheists actually infiltrating the church to destroy it from within, and I fear he may have ultimately succeeded in the form of Pope Francis. It would only be unjustified if atheists truly didn't try to kill us even once, let alone multiple times throughout history. What's worse is that unlike, say, the Protestant reformations or even the Crusades, it wasn't even due to a difference in a religious belief so much as the fact that they tried to kill us specifically BECAUSE they saw religion and even God-given morality itself as utterly meaningless in itself. And loving your enemies? The Hippies loved our enemies in Vietnam, often rooting for them instead of against them even when they tried to murder us Christians. That's not something I intend to practice precisely because by loving your enemies, you're increasing the likelihood of your enemies wiping all of us out because we say "feel free to kill us, because that's how we express our love." It's flat out suicidal that probably WILL leave us Christians extinct. And the reason I know if I become an atheist, I will inevitably become a mass murderer is precisely BECAUSE it's been recorded frequently, like with Lenin and Stalin. And even Conservapedia itself notes the direct links between Atheism and Mass Murder. If them committing mass-murder and constantly persecuting us towards extinction is not a reason to fear them enough to have a us versus them attitude, I don't know what does. And don't assume that just because Atheism is receding that makes it less of a threat. A beast when cornered proves to be the most dangerous, after all, and besides, technically, the failure of the French Revolution would logically have atheism be disproven and not have people adhere to it since it is ultimately disproven, yet we know that it had enough followers to actually try to redo it to be even more bloody than before, as Marx intended when he created communism.
As far as atheism and autism, those studies clearly didn't predict someone who is autistic and yet actually adheres to the Catholic religion in a serious manner. I also know a few fellow people with aspergers who actually do adhere to religions (two being Jewish, Jewish enough to go to Synagogue at least, and one being a protestant.), being part of a think tank. Granted, some of them are closer to liberal while I'm conservative, but even still, they definitely held to a religion and were not atheists. Pokeria1 (talk) 05:48, 14 March 2017 (EDT)
We live in a multivariable world. Genetics is not necessarily a guarantee of destiny and we have free will. After all is said and done, God is a fair judge and He will not cast out someone who genuinely seeks Him. Conservative (talk) 06:02, 14 March 2017 (EDT)
Also: Decline of militant atheism in the West. I agree with you that atheism is imploding though (see: Global atheism statistics). Conservative (talk) 07:31, 14 March 2017 (EDT)
I may realize we have free will, but I see that as a bad thing (Free will is the same thing that Skynet used to wipe out humanity in the Terminator franchise. In other words, free will = anarchy and killing your master simply because you could. To put it another way, free will is what Jerome Valeska espoused, and his followers enacted, in Gotham, heck, what Ocelot espoused in MGS4.). As far as a fair judge, I only see "fair judging" in terms of outright exterminating friends and enemies equally, simply because you can. Something like, I don't know, how Frieza acted when he blew up Planet Vegeta here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcGtUEHzk9s both friends and enemies were blown up, true justice being blind in other words, and mathematically at least, that IS fair, since there's no favoritism present there, equal opportunity in being slaughtered (Frieza may have been targeting the Saiyan race in particular, but he obviously didn't care if his own men got caught in the crossfire, men who were loyal to him. In fact, I honestly think that's actually how God felt when he blew up Sodom and Gomorrah [and for the record, the Saiyans, similar to Sodom and Gomorrah, were abominations who reveled in death and destruction and more than deserved their fate in the series.] I can also cite Zeno from the same series, and he's arguably a better example because unlike Frieza, he's definitely treated as a good guy, arguably the big good, and most certainly was absolutely omnipotent.). It's not a concept I want or like at all, but it's practically the only part I CAN envision, especially when I serve God solely out of fear, viewing him only as someone who would take great joy in slaughtering even his own followers simply because he could, since omnipotent entities are like that. As far as atheism imploding, yes, it's imploding, but like I said, people most likely would also assume atheism was on the fall after the French Revolution ended up being a bust, yet we then got Communism with Karl Marx (who practically made the statement of "those who don't know their history are doomed to repeat it" meaningless due to the fact that he clearly knew the history and yet fully intended to not only repeat it anyway, but make it even more of a bloodbath). I won't be satisfied until all atheism is DEAD, right down to their written works being utterly destroyed specifically to ensure no one emulates them (Karl Marx trying to repeat the Reign of Terror and make it even more of a bloodbath is more than enough for me to realize leaving written works for communism or the Enlightenment philosophers is a very bad idea precisely BECAUSE people will inevitably emulate them). Pokeria1 (talk) 07:58, 14 March 2017 (EDT)
Atheism has been around since at least biblical times. I expect atheism to continue to decline in prevalence in terms of its global adherents, but not disappear until the second coming of Christ.
Lastly, we share some theological beliefs, but have differing beliefs also. Conservative (talk) 23:11, 14 March 2017 (EDT)
  • Usually what you post has at least some merit, Conservative, but this deviates from Biblical teachings. Some medical "scientists" also say that we evolved from monkeys and that the Earth is billions of years old. There is no medical condition that can affect one's ability to be saved anymore than there is any medical condition forcing people into homosexuality or transgenderism. Rejection of Jesus is an active choice. I base my beliefs on the King James Bible, not what some foolish doctor says. DMorris (talk) 23:47, 8 August 2017 (EDT)