Talk:Essay: Toxic gamma males. Keep them out of your life and organizations

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If anyone takes exception to this essay, feel free to create the counter essay: Essay: Gamma males are a myth. But even if gamma males exist, make friends with them and recruit them into your organizations. Godspeed. Conservative (talk) 22:38, October 9, 2023 (EDT)

Quit citing Vox Day

I can't believe I'm saying this, but on this specific dispute, RobSmith is right and Conservative is not. Vox Day is a white supremacist. Since racism is a liberal trait according to Conservapedia, I wonder why someone calling himself "User:CONSERVATIVE" would quote a pansie Leftist.—LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 19:43, November 21, 2023 (EST)

Vox Day quote: "The answer isn't white supremacy because white supremacy simply isn't true. Whites are not superior..." [1] Conservative (talk) 19:45, November 21, 2023 (EST)
Wow. "Hey, Mr. Hitler, Are you a racist?" Mr. Hitler: "Nah." Okay, that settles it. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 19:48, November 21, 2023 (EST)
Vox Day openly aligns with the alt-right and defended a white supremacist mass murderer. Your quote-mining isn't going to cut it. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 19:52, November 21, 2023 (EST)
Vox Day is pro-Russia and pro-China.[2][3] His views are closer to RobSmith than mine. Day is a lot of things, but one thing he is not and that is a white supremacist. Conservative (talk) 19:54, November 21, 2023 (EST)
Whoever said I was "pro-Russia" or "pro-China"? RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 19:58, November 21, 2023 (EST)
Exactly: Vox Day is clearly a racist Leftist who supports Commu-Fascist China and neo-Communist Putinist Russia. So that begs the question: why are you citing him? If your best go-to source is a Comsympy white supremacism shill, that doesn't reflect well upon you, Conservative. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 20:24, November 21, 2023 (EST)

"It won't happen until China and Russia break the back of US domination, first. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:53, August 14, 2023 (EDT)"

"IOWs, if you don't have anything positive to say about socialists and communists, just shut up, at least for the duration of the war. Read the bios of Bill Donovan, Frank Knox, and Henry Stimson. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, you especially need to just shut up. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:54, January 21, 2023 (EST)"Conservative (talk) 20:05, November 21, 2023 (EST)

Do you have a point, or am I suppose to guess? RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 20:17, November 21, 2023 (EST)
Here, Dinesh D'Souza uploaded this 8 min clip a few minutes ago with you in mind. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 21:00, November 21, 2023 (EST)

Thanks for the tip on neo-Nazi Vox Day

It led me to the source of all your Dark Triad spam and other neo-Nazi crap you've emersed yourself in and spammed into Conservapedia. RobSRecovering Republican 00:28, December 30, 2025 (EST)

24.4% of Atheism and Mass Murder article was spam cited to notorious antisemite Vox Day/Theodore Beale

As of now, 25% is a benchmark for the antisemitic spam User:Conservative has written into hundreds of Conservapedia articles.RobSRecovering Republican 12:03, December 28, 2025 (EST)

Suggestion: If the Vox Day/Theodore Beale references & links are to be retained, the page should be moved to Essay: Atheism and Mass Murder.

The appropriate {{Essay By|Conservative}} Template should also be applied. RobSRecovering Republican 14:14, December 28, 2025 (EST)

Personally, I am tired of being asked why I participate in such an openly antisemitic platform. RobSRecovering Republican 14:16, December 28, 2025 (EST)

Rob, this is way over-the-top. If you have a factual dispute with something in an entry written by User:Conservative, then let's see it. But name-calling and ad hominem attacks need to stop. Let's return to improving encyclopedic content. Thanks.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 15:06, December 28, 2025 (EST)
Factual dispute? Go back into your Archives. I have presented them for years and been ignored.
Where is the name calling?
Vox Day/Theodore Beale has been spammed into over 100 mainspace articles. User:Conservative knew there were problems with his source when (a) he tried to hide the name "Vox Day" and replace it with "Theodore Beale", and (b) when he began scrubbing his endorsement of the antisemitic content from talk pages. RobSRecovering Republican 17:24, December 28, 2025 (EST)
There are other sources that can be used to make the same points, and better, without Vox Day/Theodore Beale and his antisemitic tropes. RobSRecovering Republican 22:30, December 29, 2025 (EST)

Vox Day and the modern obsession with “citation purity” is not Christian

What we’re running into is a very modern, secular moral framework that says:

If a person is later bad in any way, everything they ever said is contaminated.

That is not how:

  • Scripture treats figures like David, Solomon, Samson, and Peter (Peter denied Christ three times, etc.)
  • The Church treats Augustine, Luther, or even Aquinas
  • Moral theology evaluates responsibility
  • Christianity is about discernment, not ritual purification.

Below is a calm, settled conclusion I can stand on.

Here is a position Conservapedia can hold without anxiety:

  • Vox Day made valid critiques of atheism
  • Those critiques helped Christians
  • I cited those critiques in good faith
  • I do not endorse his later racial or political rhetoric
  • I am not responsible for his change as a person when he became alt-right and afterwards.
  • The good fruit remains good fruit
  • I do not need to argue this endlessly.
  • I do not need to justify myself to bad-faith critics.
  • I do not need to clean something up that doesn't need to be cleaned up to satisfy people who won’t be satisfied anyway. Conservative (talk) 17:48, December 28, 2025 (EST)
If any of that is true, you will voluntarily, by your own volition, Move all mainspace articles with citations and links to Vox Day or Theodore Beale to Essay space and label them with {{Essay By|Conservative}}, until such a time as other editors can vet the content.
P.S. Do not make accusations of others being "non-Christian".
Andy should note, your smears of Slobodan Milošević being an "atheist" were totally unfounded. RobSRecovering Republican 17:55, December 28, 2025 (EST)
Many great works were anonymous. A massive purge is inappropriate unless actual errors are found. Thanks for the clarification re: Slobodan Milošević.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 18:04, December 28, 2025 (EST)
The error in User:Conservative's mind is like this:
Communist = atheist = non-Christian = Jew.
RobSRecovering Republican 18:12, December 28, 2025 (EST)
That equation is unjustified in describing any editor here. Now, let's return to encyclopedic editing. Thanks.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 18:36, December 28, 2025 (EST)
I beg your pardon, communist = atheist is exactly how User:Conservative tarred Milosevich as an atheist. He's done so with countless others.
The communists suppressed the church, hoping to suppress Christian-Muslim conflicts. Milosevich restored the church, and with it came Christian-Muslim conflicts. This is encyclopedic, not the ahistorical claptrap & bigotry User:Conservative has spammed into hundreds, if not thousands of mainspaces.
Ultimately, it is a policy question, that for now can be resolved by anti-spamming enforcement. User:Conservative's habit of spamming the same unvetted text into multiple mainspaces at the same time should be restricted, and time allowed for vetting of content. RobSRecovering Republican 18:44, December 28, 2025 (EST)

I never said Slobodan Milošević was an "atheist", etc. etc. Conservative (talk) 19:25, December 28, 2025 (EST)

Atheism_and_Mass_Murder#Yugoslavia and more.
I'm not gonna argue with you point-by-point the non-factual, unencyclopedic content you've spammed into thousands of pages. I'm asking Andy for an anti-spamming policy with enforcement provisions to give editors time to vet the highly questionable sources and conclusions you spam everywhere without discussion.
We actually have such a policy. There is no enforcement. User:Conservative violates it with impunity. RobSRecovering Republican 19:57, December 28, 2025 (EST)

Can you find all the Nazi buzzwords in Vox Day’s recent denunciation of Jewish humor?

Well, yes. Much of it seems directly lifted out of Mein Kampf.

Jewish humor isn't

What passes for Jewish so-called humor isn't... Jewish "humor" is nothing more than a degenerate combination of whining, moral and cultural transgressivism, narcissistic posturing, and sexual obsession.....The reason that comedy is dying is because it was taken over by subversives, and subversives are intrinsically parasitical in nature. They can't build, create, or even sustain anything on their own...

AI gives this response:

"I am unable to fulfill this request. I cannot provide information or generate content that promotes hate speech, discriminatory content, or glorifies violence and historical atrocities..."

and I'm not going to waste my time digging out chapter and verse where this comes from in Mein Kampf without an assurance from Andy that User:Conservative's material will either be revised, reverted, or the editor disciplined. RobSRecovering Republican 23:19, December 29, 2025 (EST)