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I guess we need a definition of what is meant by "institutionalized", then. RobS 10:25, 16 March 2007 (EDT)


Racism is the process of making judgments based on race. Racism is making broad generalizations about a group of people based on perceived notions, (see prejudice) and then making such generalizations part of society. prejudice and discrimination based on race.

I'm using Diane Ravitch's definition, because it's shorter. --Ed Poor 08:28, 10 May 2007 (EDT)

Therefore, it can be hailed racist to say "Western civilization is the dominant global culture" or "America is far advanced than it's developing neighbor Mexico". The concept of what's racism is sketchy, liable and from hastened "jumping to conclusion" by those who seek to be victims. Its like in an era when the president of the USA is black, an African-American may claim he was a victim of legal institutional racism or the USA is a country hostile to black people. What about the American consumer doesn't mind if their products were made by Chinese or Asian people, a long way from the WWII era when white Americans thought the Japanese are terrible "crafty" cheap tin-can toy-makers. The problem is we can't tell what's racist anymore, or if it's meant to attack/insult/defame/offend/belittle any ethnic group of people. + Getitstraight 15:55, 14 December 2009 (EST)

Affirmative action[edit]

I've heard it say that affirmative action is racist, and to some point I agree with it, though only on a technicality. However, this is an opinion, not a fact, and as such should be cited and attributed, per the Commandments. HelpJazz 22:39, 8 October 2007 (EDT)

Perhaps the 2008 real estate bubble burst was caused by housing loan companies giving houses to those who couldn't pay off their mortgages, in part was created by the Clinton administration's empty promises to give houses away to "all people", yet it was mostly black people and Latinos who were targeted for faulty home loans. The liberals and Democrats alike for decades wanted to make it easy for minorities to get homes, and the pressure to make up for past discrimination or racial segregation of housing tracts by having low-income blacks and Latinos (illegal immigrants) acquire homes not fully paid for. Also you still have middle-class whites who have a fear of "minorities" moving into suburbs, based on a belief that black people will bring in crime, drugs, blight, hostility and immorality into the suburbs (and now many blacks move out of the inner-cities to flee from Latinos). + Getitstraight 16:00, 14 December 2009 (EST)

Watchdog Groups[edit]

The quote from Laird Wilcox was rather unrelated to the subject. It dealt with a specific sub-group of persons dealing with racism in society, but within a larger context of watchdog groups. It changes the focus and the bent of the entire article, and I feel it is not helpful nor needed in this context. JohnGalt 15:35, 30 November 2007 (EST)

"Given the Abuses?" I don't understand. That really doesn't seem like a valid excuse for altering that back. JohnGalt 12:15, 3 December 2007 (EST)
See Ann Coulter, Another Liberal Noose-ance [1] for a partial list of recent abuses. Rob Smith 14:28, 6 December 2007 (EST)
Are they found in Human Resources departments in the corporate workplace? or college professors wanting to teach the 1960s-era stance of racial minorities? More likely they are congressional lawmakers making federal "hate crimes" bills, like the recent one passed last Oct. made it a federal offense for an offender to commit hate crimes based on the victim's gender, sexual orientation and disability (if it's the factor of the given hate crime). Watchdog groups are like the fifth column for "stop the hate" and diversity activist organizations who assume people shouldn't talk about diversity, except the members in the organization group. Talk about putting a foot in its' mouth. + Getitstraight 16:04, 14 December 2009 (EST)

Gender, religion, etc.[edit]

I would like to remove mention of these as racism, although religion and race can be intertwined to the point of near inseparability. Discrimination based on gender and religion is bigotry, but not racism, just as discrimination based on race is not sexism. I mention this here because I don't want to revert Jpatt without discussion. Corry 23:08, 18 October 2008 (EDT)

Prejudice comes in all forms, it is still bigoted for one to assume a person of a different race, gender, religion, class, country, etc. is "lower", "inferior" or "not quite human". What about criticism of Sarah fueled by sexism? like one front cover of a Nov. 2009 Newsweek issue depicted her in a running suit? It offended many women readers, plus Sarah Palin disapproves Newsweek's decision to post her photo to down play her in a way she felt is sexist. + Getitstraight 15:52, 14 December 2009 (EST)

Liberal refusal to acknowledge white anti-racism[edit]

I don't know why, but the trend these last 30+ years has been to refuse to acknowledge any white opposition to racism. Stowe's book is dismissed, and the lead character's name is used as an epithet (see "Uncle Tom"). Huckleberry Finn is dismissed as racist because the n-word appears in it hundreds of times (never mind about the story). "Song of the South" was removed from distribution.

What is wrong with showing blacks and whites having friendly relationships? Is it because it undermines the cause of Black separatism? --Ed Poor Talk 12:22, 12 December 2012 (EST)

Wait, your idea of blacks and whites having "friendly relations" is Song of the South? MattyD 16:08, 12 December 2012 (EST)

"Admired Hitler"[edit]

My apologies for coming down on you so hard last time you attempted to remove this comment, MattF. I hadn't done me research and seen that you were the one who added it. I assume I was distracted by other vandalism at the time, but in any case, I should have looked. --David B (TALK) 19:20, 16 October 2017 (EDT)

Obama's Ancestry?[edit]

"Barack Obama has no bloodline tracing back to American blacks. Obama was raised by his white mother and white grandparents and has little in common with the attitudes and experiences of American blacks." I'm not sure this is true. In July 2012, found a strong likelihood that his (Obama's) mother, Stanley Ann Dunham was descended from John Punch, an enslaved African man who lived in the Colony of Virginia during the seventeenth century. And anyway, Obama's a black American himself, surely his "bloodline' doesn't matter? We really shouldn't be talking about ethnic purity and things like that, considering we're all against racism here. I mean, they say mixed-race people always do well for themselves (look at successful policians like Donald Trump - part German, Scottish, Slovenian/Czech by marriage - and Boris Johnson - part English, Russian, Turkish, Jewish, American, French, German, Polish).—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] [[User talk:{{{1}}}|(talk)]]

Show the evidence that from either Obama's mother or father's side he is DOS - Descendent of Slaves. RobSDe Plorabus Unum 20:30, 8 April 2020 (EDT)