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:::You're just spam trolling again. Let Andy read the entire article and render a decision. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 20:09, September 8, 2023 (EDT) | :::You're just spam trolling again. Let Andy read the entire article and render a decision. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 20:09, September 8, 2023 (EDT) | ||
| + | RobSmith, Conservapedia commandment #1: Everything must be true and '''<big>verifiable.</big> | ||
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You can't just willy nilly claim that you have a confidential source. Andy is a big believer in verifiability. That is why he asked [[Richard Lenski]] for his data. | You can't just willy nilly claim that you have a confidential source. Andy is a big believer in verifiability. That is why he asked [[Richard Lenski]] for his data. | ||
'''And this is a key point:''' You already told us the reason you put this unsupported claim in the article. You did it because his grandaddy was a staunch communist. | '''And this is a key point:''' You already told us the reason you put this unsupported claim in the article. You did it because his grandaddy was a staunch communist. | ||
Now you want to change your story and claim it was due to a confidential source. Well, LT and I have already caught you in blatent lying in the past regarding false claims. Specifically, I caught you making up things out of thin air and claiming that sources corporately claimed something they definitely did not claim (See: [[Talk:Karen Dawisha]]).[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:44, September 8, 2023 (EDT) | Now you want to change your story and claim it was due to a confidential source. Well, LT and I have already caught you in blatent lying in the past regarding false claims. Specifically, I caught you making up things out of thin air and claiming that sources corporately claimed something they definitely did not claim (See: [[Talk:Karen Dawisha]]).[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:44, September 8, 2023 (EDT) | ||
Revision as of 00:46, September 9, 2023
The Bill Browder article states: "Continuing a family tradition, Bill Browder is the sworn enemy of the global anti-communist movement, exemplified by Browder's rift with Vladimir Putin."
First of all, there is no supporting footnote for this big claim. So I am rightly skeptical.
And secondly, at first appearance, he comes across as more of a businessman who likes to avoid taxes - either legally or illegally. He doesn't come across as a communist. Conservative (talk) 16:20, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- Oh, fine. He's only the grandson of CPUSA General Secretary Earl Browder, the man FDR, like Biden and Putin, threw in in prison cause he was running against him in a presidential election. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 16:23, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- That's not proof. There are plenty of sons who did not follow the footsteps of their fathers. It's the logical fallacy of guilt by association.
- "The son will not bear the punishment for the sin of the father, nor will the father bear the punishment for the sin of the son; the righteousness of the righteous shall be on himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be on himself." - Ezekiel 18:19-23 Amplified Bible (AMP) Conservative (talk) 16:27, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- (ec) Look, if you want an education in geopolitics or history, you either have to get it on your own or stop trolling me. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 16:28, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- Conservapedia articles are expected to be factual. And those facts need to have a supporting citation or citations. It's right in the Conservapedia Commandments.
- If your claim is a fact, it should be easy for you to support it with a citation. Conservative (talk) 16:31, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- Conservapedia Commandment #1: "Everything you post must be true and verifiable."
- If your claim is a fact, it should be easy for you to support it with a citation. Conservative (talk) 16:31, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- I asked for verification through a citation or citations, which is more than reasonable, but you failed to provide a citation or citations. Conservative (talk)
- Then put the Template:Fact [Citation Needed] up, duh. And you're an Admin?
- Why are you arguing with another Admin over something as stupid as this? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 16:38, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- By the way, Conservative, I see that RobSmith locked your mail page to "Administrators only." Just thought I should tell you. —
LTRev. 22:13 Friday, 16:45, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- By the way, Conservative, I see that RobSmith locked your mail page to "Administrators only." Just thought I should tell you. —
I very politely asked Rob to support his claim. And then he admitted it was guilt by association and it had no factual support. Case closed. Conservative (talk) 16:49, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- I put the fact template in the Bill Browder article as per your request. If you don't provide a citation that supports your claim, I will free to remove RobSmith's unsupported claim from the Bill Browder article. Hopefully, he removes the unsupported claim on his own though. Conservative (talk) 19:25, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- Much of the contents of this page was written with research provided by Jeff Carlson prior to his hiring by the Epoch Times. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:53, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- At the time, I was in contact with Carlson regarding research on James Comey's April 2016 all day White House visit. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:55, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- In all due respect, that is not evidence of your specific claim RobSmith. Conservative (talk) 20:01, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- You're just spam trolling again. Let Andy read the entire article and render a decision. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 20:09, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
RobSmith, Conservapedia commandment #1: Everything must be true and verifiable. You can't just willy nilly claim that you have a confidential source. Andy is a big believer in verifiability. That is why he asked Richard Lenski for his data.
And this is a key point: You already told us the reason you put this unsupported claim in the article. You did it because his grandaddy was a staunch communist. Now you want to change your story and claim it was due to a confidential source. Well, LT and I have already caught you in blatent lying in the past regarding false claims. Specifically, I caught you making up things out of thin air and claiming that sources corporately claimed something they definitely did not claim (See: Talk:Karen Dawisha).Conservative (talk) 20:44, September 8, 2023 (EDT)