Talk:Great Achievements by Teenagers

Clarification

Nearly all of those who accomplished great deeds while being teenagers made even greater contributions when they became adults. Especially, this list can't be used to bolster up the claim that most of the greatest works in history were accomplished by people who were teenagers BRichtigen 16:49, 26 December 2008 (EST)

Heavenly voices

Is hearing heavenly voices an acheivement? Is was it leading France to victory that was the acheivement? It rather reads as if the hearing of voices was the acheivement. --TCochrane 18:26, 26 December 2008 (EST)

Reversion

Obviously if someone produced a work before becoming a teenager it proves the same point; hence the reversion.--aschlafly 21:34, 26 December 2008 (EST)

Then how about renaming the page to keep it accurate? "Great Achievements by Minors", maybe? DRussell 21:40, 26 December 2008 (EST)

Karl Benz

I removed Karl Benz: Though he was a child prodigy, at the given age (15), he "only" passed the entrance exam of the University of Karlsruhe. His genius really flourished in his late thirties. --BRichtigen 07:10, 27 December 2008 (EST)

Later Achievments

• 7 - Yehudi Menuhin: made his last recording age 82
• 8 - Pablo Picasso Cubism: age 30
• 8 - Frederic Chopin Piano Concert No. 1: age 20
• 12 - Blaise Pascal "Traité du triangle arithmétique": age 30
• 13 - John stays a mistery
• 13 - Joan of Arc inspired and led France to victory in the Hundred Years War
• 13 - Anne Frank began writing her diary, later published as "Anne Frank: The Diary of a Young Girl"
• 14 - chess-player Bobby Fischer World Chess Champion: age 29
• 14 - Mozart"Don Giovanni": age 32
• 15 - Louis Braille invented the Braille system
• 15 - Christopher Paolini writes the first draft of his Eragon trilogy which is published when he is 19.
• 16 - Jean-François Champollion: deciphers the Rosetta Stone age 32
• 18 - Mary Shelley writes Frankenstein (The Modern Prometheus) - it is only published when she is 21, however.
• 20 - Carl Friedrich Gauss makes his first mathematical discoveries, which will lead to the completion of "Disquisitiones Arithmeticae", his magnum opus, at the age of 21.

So, most of the persons in the list made contributions to their field works overshadowing there achievements as teenagers.

BRichtigen 08:57, 27 December 2008 (EST)

A corrosive attitude is not beneficial. If, as Andy suggested, you opened your mind you might find nmany more examples to support this case. Bear in mind: demolition is easy, to build takes effort! Bugler 08:59, 27 December 2008 (EST)

Jesus

I'm not entirely certain I'm comfortable with including Jesus on a list of "teenagers." Part of that may just be a visceral reaction against applying the term to the Almighty, but setting that aside, I'm still not entirely sure he belongs on the list. After all, despite His physical age at the time he preached, He was still God, and therefore timeless and eternal. It's going to be a little hard for anyone, teenager or adult, to measure up to His list of accomplishments! --Benp 14:18, 28 December 2008 (EST)

IQ Peak

Although it is a hotly debated subject, there is no concrete evidence to suggest that IQ peaks in the pre-teen/teenage years. The linked article provides evidence to support that the rate of brain development peaks at this time, but this is idependant of a person's IQ.

To highlight the diparate viewpoints, it is possible to show an IQ peak at anywhere from 14-16yrs old, all the way up to 50yrs+ - depending on what you measure, how you measure and how you interpret your findings (as with many stats i suppose).

More info: http://www.albion.edu/psychology/fac_psyc/jwilson/psy101/intell.htm

Hope my edit is satisfactory --J00ni 18:22, 28 December 2008 (EST)